Hoi,
When the community and the developers are to be more involved, I want to
share with you the kind of discussions we have far, far away in Wikidata
land. There are a few thing you must know.
- most subjects are not covered in any Wikipedia
- we want to link to subjects that are not present at present in a
Wikipedia
- we want to show the information as much as possible preferably in the
local language
- we want to ensure that vandals in Wikidata will not destroy the
credibility of a Wikipedia or Wikidata
This is mostly an engineering issue as most of these issues have a proof of
concept. So yes, we very much want engineering and community to be more
mutually engaged.
Thanks,
GerardM
On 14 February 2015 at 09:56, Gerard Meijssen <[email protected]>
wrote:
> Hoi,
> As a very involved Wikimedian I do not get anything out of your approach.
>
> It is obvious that you care about the VisualEditor because you have self
> nominated it. That is fine. I do not care either about it so you already
> lost me. Given that this is the Wikimedia list and not the Wikipedia list I
> hope you find my reply obvious and irritating. When you want to engage all
> of us, make sure that you do not phrase a general plea for engagement in
> something that is mostly Wikipedia.
> Thanks,
> GerardM
>
> On 11 February 2015 at 21:31, Damon Sicore <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>> Dear Wikimedians,
>>
>> We are changing our engineering processes to improve how we engage with
>> you -- our valued contributors and editors -- around software development.
>>
>> We are beginning with the collaborative buildout and deployment of
>> VisualEditor. We are moving community engagement processes and product
>> decisions into earlier stages of development, and making them iterative. In
>> a perfect world this process would start prior to feature development, but
>> in this case VisualEditor is already in-flight, so your participation now
>> is critical. With your participation, we can work together to ensure this
>> new process works.
>>
>> In this new process, we commit to:
>>
>> • Collectively identify success criteria for each target audience, from
>> new editors (simple feature set) to expert editors (complex feature set).
>> • Ensure success criteria represents the quantified and qualified goals.
>> The feature will only be shipped when the success criteria is met.
>> • Enable the feature for only portions of specific audiences that would
>> best benefit (a process known as “incremental roll-out”) at a time.
>> • Triage and prioritize all bugs and feature requests on a weekly basis
>> to ensure they are addressed in a timely fashion. Publicly post responses,
>> assessment, and target implementations. This will replace the RFP process
>> and ensure we are tracking on all requested features efficiently.
>>
>> How you can engage:
>>
>> • Report bugs or enhancement requests in Phabricator:
>> https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/visualeditor/
>> • Join any of the weekly triage meetings to nominate a release blocker.
>> Please see the instructions at:
>> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:VisualEditor/Portal
>> • Participate in development. You can find the team on IRC in the
>> #mediawiki-visualeditor channel on irc.freenode.net.
>>
>> We are excited to get this long-standing feature to the level of quality
>> and success we all want and need. It is a collective effort. You are not
>> only a stakeholder, but an active contributor in this work. We want to all
>> to be proud of the outcome. Please participate now.
>>
>> All my best,
>>
>> Damon
>>
>>
>> —
>> Damon Sicore
>> VP of Engineering
>> Wikimedia Foundation
>> [email protected]
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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