On 11 September 2014 19:19, Charles Gregory <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 8:34 AM, Isarra Yos <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > On 11/09/14 22:06, Pete Forsyth wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Personally, I have no problem with the existence of the conference, but
> I
> >> find its name alienating. Not everyone agrees with that assessment, but
> >> clearly some others in this thread do.
> >>
> >
> > What Pete said.
> >
> > We could go into issues with the exclusionary nature itself, such as that
> > it would exclude representatives of groups who ran into trouble becoming
> > official - despite such a conference likely being one of the best venues
> > for them to bring up and discuss with relevant others how to actually
> > address or resolve that trouble that excluded them in the first place...
> >
> > ...but that sort of thing is much harder to resolve/address. The name, at
> > least, is simple, and should also make a lot of the other problems less
> > glaring in the process.
> >
> >
> Assuming the issue of the name is the sticking point ...
>
> What about the Wikimedia Meta-Conference? Or Meta-Wikimedia Conference?  Or
> MetaWiki Conference?
>
> It's more about the organisations in the background than keep the movement
> going.  It doesn't seem (from my second-hand knowledge of the event) that a
> regular editor would get a lot out of it?
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
This is the same problem.  It's usurping the Wikimedia name, and this
proposal also usurps the Meta (all communities communication forum) name.
It is neither for Wikimedia (as a whole) nor for Meta.  It's for designated
members of affiliates/chapters.  It's okay for it to be what it is. But
let's call it what it is.

It's not about the colour of the bikeshed.  It's about calling a bikeshed a
community centre.

Risker/Anne
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