Oops, sorry for typos (and top posting, I'm on my phone). I meant to say I
don't think becoming a user group is a penalty.
On Feb 12, 2014 1:26 PM, "phoebe ayers" <[email protected]> wrote:

> And to Pharos' point, for new groups i don't think becoming a penalty. If
> a group goes from no Wikimedia recognition to being a user group they go
> from no access to resources to access to the Wikimedia trademarks, access
> to grants big and small, listing with other official groups...it's a big
> change. Of course groups might want to become a chapter later on, but
> that's not exactly always an easy process...
> On Feb 12, 2014 1:20 PM, "phoebe ayers" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> If a group was in the process of applying to affcom, we will consider
>> then case by case - this decision does not apply to groups in process.
>>
>> If there's a group out there that had just talked about it but not talked
>> to affcom - we don't have a way of knowing about them! New groups who
>> haven't already talked to affcom and are trying to figure it out should
>> apply to be a user group.
>>
>> Phoebe
>> On Feb 11, 2014 11:58 AM, "Pharos" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Certainly, in the last 2 years and before, a handful of Wikimedia
>>> volunteer groups have been quite as active and organized as those
>>> currently being classified as User Groups - only the option of being
>>> recognized as User Groups did not exist for them at the time of their
>>> founding.
>>>
>>> And it is a good thing that this category exists now, but is seems
>>> wrong to penalize Wikimedia volunteer groups that *do* have a track
>>> record of effective programmatic experience, just because they were
>>> started before the User Group category was in existence.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Richard
>>> (User:Pharos)
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 12:33 AM, phoebe ayers <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>> > Hi all,
>>> >
>>> > I want to draw your attention to two Wikimedia Board of Trustees
>>> decisions
>>> > that were recently published, regarding funds allocated to the
>>> FDC/Annual
>>> > plan grant process and Board approval of chapter/thematic organization
>>> > status. In a nutshell, the Board decided to allocate approximately the
>>> same
>>> > amount of funding to the FDC for the next two years. The Board also
>>> decided
>>> > that new organizations should first form as a user group and have two
>>> years
>>> > of programmatic experience before being approved as a legally
>>> incorporated
>>> > entity (either a chapter or thematic organization).
>>> >
>>> > The decisions are published in the meeting minutes here:
>>> > https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Minutes/2013-11-24#Movement_roles
>>> >
>>> > There is also a FAQ on Meta:
>>> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Movement_roles_FAQ
>>> >
>>> > You will notice these decisions are published in the minutes for the
>>> > November meeting. We originally took these decisions at that meeting;
>>> > however as the FAQ explains it took us some time to talk to community
>>> > groups, clarify our wording and write the FAQ.
>>> >
>>> > Hopefully the FAQ will answer many of your questions about these
>>> decisions;
>>> > however, if there are other questions please do ask them, here or on
>>> the
>>> > meta talk page. Thank you!
>>> >
>>> > for the Board,
>>> > Phoebe
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