To me, these proposals always sound a bit like: "We want this person to be resilient and good-humoured. So we're going to punch all our possible candidates in the face a few times and see where they want to go from there."
I know that's not the intention, but it's certainly the plausible effect... Andrew. On Monday, 3 February 2014, Martijn Hoekstra <[email protected]<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote: > I understand your reasoning, but we already have an extremely difficult > time finding a suitable candidate. While such community vetting would > definitely weed out the people we don't want, it will also slim down the > pool we do want, which currently sits around a cool 0. I don't think we > can afford that either. > On Feb 1, 2014 4:47 PM, "Todd Allen" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I'm sure dismissively calling people's legitimate concerns "playing with > > (a) toy" will help greatly in that regard. > > > > If someone's going to apply for a job where they'll be scrutinized by a > > large volunteer community, it is not unreasonable to determine if they > can > > withstand that type of scrutiny by a real world test, nor to find whether > > they'll be responsive and direct to concerns brought up when that > happens. > > The community has had enough of "diplomatic" null statements with lots of > > words, and should be. Someone needs to give an answer, not just blather > on > > and wind up saying nothing concrete at all. > > > > It is right for the community to be fed up with that and demand that a > > candidate go through that process. Yes, it would be hard. Yes, it would > > discourage some applicants. Those are the applicants we want to > discourage. > > We want someone who fits well with our particular project, and who will > be > > responsive and direct with our volunteer community. They are the > > underpinnings of every project WMF undertakes. > > > > Todd Allen > > > > > > On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 8:13 AM, Tony Souter <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Folks: are we still playing with this toy? > > > > > > I've sat here and watched this discourse - variously frivolous, > slightly > > > insulting, and embarrassing - and said nothing in the hope it would > just > > > fizzle away. > > > > > > But amazingly, it's still here. > > > > > > We have to accept that while crowdsourcing is the genius of Wikipedia > and > > > a few of its sister projects, it's totally inappropriate for choosing > the > > > executive director of a big, prominent Foundation that lives in a > > > competitive, complex, and often negative jungle. There's a bunch of > > reasons > > > for doing this largely away from the gaze of the rest of the world. Do > I > > > really need to spell them out? > > > > > > It would be good to move on to more useful and practical topics. > > > > > > Tony > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 02/02/2014, at 1:32 AM, Benjamin Lees <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 3:29 AM, ENWP Pine <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > >> > > > >> Chad, I wonder if Rory has been considered. (: > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Given his history of biting newbies, I'm not sure he'd be in a good > > > > position to help solve the editor retention problem. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list > > > > [email protected] > > > > Unsubscribe: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list > > [email protected] > > Unsubscribe: > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wik<https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l> -- - Andrew Gray [email protected] _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe>
