Hello Nemo, Sorry for the confusing in-line, I entered the conversation late, and appreciate your patience. I do not think I am understanding what definition information you are asking for. The definition of how we defined the windows for 3 and 6 month follow-up is written on the overview page in reference note number 1 and I have now added a second reference to the mediawiki reference page I shared as that is what the 5+/month is referenced from.
The way the quarters are defined is also referenced in the main text of the report with some additional note references. As we are looking at retention of "active"editors at different follow-up points defined at 3 and 6 months (as indication of short and intermediate term outcomes) we have outlined how this was done as a more-or-less quarterly follow-up following the end of program events. So yes, the first quarter post event is October through December and the second January through March. Assessments are from Wikimetrics and based on a start day and time and end day and time, not on account creation as these other metrics do as we are evaluating outreach programs that have event dates and variable account creation dates. The goal of the metric that was was mainly to assess the number of "active" contributors that are actually recruited, survival has been included mostly for added understanding of the how this "active" requirement compares to survival (any activity in the window of interest). Still, I am not sure if this is answering you either. If you are simply suggesting we not look at retention at 3 and 6 month intervals but rather at 1 week, 2 months, and 6 months, as exampled on your page link, I must say that this is the first time for that suggestion and that would be something to discuss on the report talk page (or overview talk page). If you have additional questions or comments, please share them on the report talk pages where we would like these conversations to take place and be recorded. Thank you, Jaime -- Jaime Anstee, Ph.D Program Evaluation Specialist Wikimedia Foundation +1.415.839.6885 ext 6869 www.wikimediafoundation.org Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality! *https://donate.wikimedia.org <https://donate.wikimedia.org/>* On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 2:18 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo) <[email protected]>wrote: > Hi Jaime. > Your inline replying format highly confuses me, but I tried to reconstruct > what you meant to say and I believe it's what below. > > Jaime Anstee, 25/01/2014 20:19: > > On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 6:10 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) >> > > > >> Is "active editor retention" a metric defined somewhere? >>> >>> It's not in <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:WMF_ >>> standardized_editor_classes>. [...] >>> >> >> Yes - >> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Analytics/Metric_definitions#Active_editor >> >> Thank you for asking, and mentioning that it is not linked in the >> section. I will reference that link there. >> > > I know what an "active editor" is, you'll see in the history that I > contributed to the section you linked. I asked about the "rate of active > editor retention" as Asaf called it, or... "Six-month follow-up Active > second quarter of retention follow-up" (??) as mentioned in the page. > Apart from the confusing terminology, you'll note that it doesn't match > with the (draft?) definition <https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > wiki/Research:Surviving_new_editor> even with non-standard n=1, m=15, > t_2=90 days and t_1 < 0 unless you arbitrarily pose T = end of September. > You may want to align definitions a bit. > > > I would like to point out that >> the overview page to the set of reports does contain a lot of important >> information about how things were defined and are reported in each >> programs >> evaluation report. >> > > If you mean <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Programs:Evaluation_ > portal/Library/Overview#Recruitment_and_retention>, it doesn't contain > any definition for the metric. > > Nemo > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list > [email protected] > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> > _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe>
