Before Visual Editor was invented, we complained about people starting editing right away and making mistakes. I'm not sure this is a completely tool-linked issue ;-)
A. On 15 October 2013 18:42, Srikanth Ramakrishnan <[email protected]> wrote: > That would be a great idea; but nobody seems to bother. They just start > editing articles right away. > > > > On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 9:05 PM, Sophie Osterberg > <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Srikanth, why don't you let them use their sandbox then to learn VE? >> >> >> >> >> 2013/10/15 Srikanth Ramakrishnan <[email protected]> >> >> > Honestly speaking I'd disable Visual Editor for new users. They have a >> > tendency of making errors. >> > >> > >> > >> > On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 5:41 PM, Jan Ainali <[email protected]> >> > wrote: >> > >> > > From Charles original questions I guess that he would be satisified >> with >> > > something like: >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:UserLogin&enablevisualeditor=1 >> > > >> > > >> > > which should enable the Visual Editor for users signing up through that >> > > link. If it is possible or not to do that I have no idea. >> > > >> > > *Med vänliga hälsningar, >> > > Jan Ainali* >> > > >> > > Verksamhetschef, Wikimedia Sverige < >> > http://se.wikimedia.org/wiki/Huvudsida >> > > > >> > > 0729 - 67 29 48 >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > 2013/10/15 Craig Franklin <[email protected]> >> > > >> > > > Hear hear. >> > > > >> > > > I know this is a battle that the Foundation's engineers can't >> possibly >> > > win, >> > > > given the circumstances which VE was moved from opt-out to opt-in on >> > > enwiki >> > > > (see >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)&diff=prev&oldid=574251354 >> > > > , >> > > > for those who aren't aware). Turn it on, turn it off; either way >> > someone >> > > > gets upset. >> > > > >> > > > From a pure technical standpoint, is it possible to put a checkbox on >> > the >> > > > new user page or something so that new users can turn it on without >> > > having >> > > > to delve deep into the untamed wilderness that is the user >> preferences >> > > > page? >> > > > >> > > > Cheers, >> > > > Craig >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > On 15 October 2013 21:54, Richard Nevell < >> > > [email protected] >> > > > >wrote: >> > > > >> > > > > I firmly agree with that, taking a detour to preferences when >> > training >> > > > new >> > > > > editors isn't my preferred method. >> > > > > >> > > > > Richard >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > On 15 October 2013 12:47, Ziko van Dijk <[email protected]> >> > > wrote: >> > > > > >> > > > > > Hello, >> > > > > > >> > > > > > I think that for beginners things must be as simple and clear as >> > > > > > possible. Make them manipulate the preferences at the beginning >> of >> > > the >> > > > > > session is already complicated and a waste of time. Don't forget >> > that >> > > > > > beginners already have to learn so many things quickly, so the >> more >> > > > > > you can reduce, the better. >> > > > > > Actually I'd prefer to have a model wiki that looks like >> Wikipedia >> > > but >> > > > > > is best suited to use in trainings. >> > > > > > >> > > > > > Kind regards >> > > > > > Ziko >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > > > > > Dr. Ziko van Dijk >> > > > > > voorzitter / president Wikimedia Nederland >> > > > > > >> > > > > > Vereniging Wikimedia Nederland >> > > > > > Postbus 167 >> > > > > > 3500 AD Utrecht >> > > > > > http://wikimedia.nl >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > 2013/10/15 Charles Andrès <[email protected]>: >> > > > > > > Thanks, but in FR.Wikipedia.org you only have the opt-out >> option >> > > > > > (disable visual editor) :-( >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Charles >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________ >> > > > > > > I use this email for mailing list only. >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Charles ANDRES, Chief Science Officer >> > > > > > > "Wikimedia CH" – Association for the advancement of free >> > knowledge >> > > – >> > > > > > > www.wikimedia.ch >> > > > > > > Skype: charles.andres.wmch >> > > > > > > IRC://irc.freenode.net/wikimedia-ch >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Le 15 oct. 2013 à 10:10, Enock Seth Nyamador < >> > [email protected]> >> > > a >> > > > > > écrit : >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Hello Charles, >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> I don't think there is a way to for this in the registration >> > > > process. >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> To enable or disable Visual Editor. Login >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> 1. Go to ---> Preferences --> Click Editing tab. >> > > > > > >> 2. At the bottom of Editing page, Check or uncheck the box >> > beside >> > > > > > Enable VisualEditor (only in the main and user namespaces) >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> OR >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> Follow this link >> > > > > > >> > > > >> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-editing >> > > > > > >> Then repeat step 2 above. >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> Hope it helps. >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> Thanks. >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> Regards, >> > > > > > >> Enock S. 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