Looks like NSA has bought some new hard drives and needs moar data.
2013/8/23 Gerard Meijssen <[email protected]> > Hoi, > But when they provide the infrastructure that allows our content to be seen > by many more people, they do us a service. > > In the end it is what we are about. Last thing I heard we were first of all > about getting the knowledge out there. > Thanks, > GerardM > > > On 23 August 2013 12:14, Jens Best <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Nothing good comes with people like Mark Zuckerberg or Peter Thiel, they > > don't share our vision of a *really* free and open internet. So, > actually, > > Emmanuel, I couldn't care less which direction they gonna make their next > > moves. It will all be a disguise of what they really attempt and with > whom > > they really cooperate. > > > > It's time to realize that there isn't a shared vision of the web between > > Silicon Valley and Wikimedia. Their words are empty. When they speak of > > freedom, they speak of the freedom of money and control. Just because > they > > use the word "internet" they don't speak of the same thing we do. > > > > Jens > > > > 2013/8/23 Emmanuel Engelhart <[email protected]> > > > > > Le 23/08/2013 10:59, Kul Wadhwa a écrit : > > > > I have my concerns as well so we're watching how things unfold for > now. > > > > Perhaps to add to Teemu's question (If I could be so bold) how would > > > > internet.org need to evolve to make it worth our time and effort to > be > > > > involved? > > > > > > If what I fear becomes real, then I would be sad that our movement > joins > > > such a dishonest project. > > > > > > If they want to give access to a subset of Internet services and adapt > > > their communication (honesty about the product), then we face a > dilemma. > > > A dilemna between our wish to give access to our content (tactical > move) > > > and the one of having a free, neutral and un-clustered Internet > > > (strategical view)... Big discussions in view, but we already have done > > > it with Wikipedia zero and I know the WMF tends to be pragmatic in such > > > situations ;) > > > > > > If they really want to help to give a neutral access to internet... > then > > > this is really a dream we should be part of! > > > > > > But, this is all about speculations... > > > > > > I just wanted to explain why this launch doesn't sound well to my > hears. > > > But I know nothing about their real intentions and concrete projects. > > > That's why, it's IMO urgent to wait... and see in which direction they > > > will make the next moves. > > > > > > Emmanuel > > > -- > > > Kiwix - Wikipedia Offline & more > > > * Web: http://www.kiwix.org > > > * Twitter: https://twitter.com/KiwixOffline > > > * more: http://www.kiwix.org/wiki/Communication > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > -- > > Jens Best > > Präsidium > > Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. > > web: http://www.wikimedia.de > > mail: jens.best <http://goog_17221883>@wikimedia.de > > > > Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. > > Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts > > Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig > > anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, > > Steuernummer 27/681/51985. > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list > > [email protected] > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list > [email protected] > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> > _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe>
