On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 4:09 AM, Peter Gervai <[email protected]> wrote: > On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Martijn Hoekstra > <[email protected]> wrote: >> On Aug 21, 2013 8:56 AM, "Peter Gervai" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> The account and/or underlying IP is >> blocked. That is the technical impediment. The action that is now a federal >> offense, it seems, is to defy the warning, by circumventing the block by >> changing IP and/or account to do what you were told not to do on the >> warning. > > Technicalities aside if I follow you right then it is a federal > offense to edit Wikipedia when you were told not to (eg. banned but > _not_ blocked). If that's the case the IP part of the discussion is > mainly irrelevant as one does not have to evade a block to violate the > ban. > >> The central issue though, that it >> seems block evasion is a federal offense, is not affected by the difficulty >> in proving evidence for it. It is the question whether the evasion is a >> crime that bothers me. > > [insert meetoo here] > > g >
This is actually incorrect, as were some of your comments about the irrelevance of IP blocks in your prior post. Have a look at some of the links I posted earlier in the thread, I think the issues should become more clear. To FT2's comments - it's not actually true that the IP ban, or a cease and desist, have to be specific to a person. In fact in the linked case, they are blanket to a company. I see no particular reason why the same reasoning can't be applied to a school, or a church. A geographic area is probably harder to support. Additionally, we generally give warnings, and block accounts. For the most egregious harassment, the only instances I can see this ever coming into play for Wikimedia, virtually every perpetrator has a long history of blocked user accounts. I think that makes the debate over the "personally identifying nature" of IPs irrelevant for this discussion. _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe>
