In case anyone was so misguided at to think that I object to WTO protecting
their logo per se. That is NOT my point, and never was. My point is that the
WTO logo and WV logo are not easily confused. I asked a simple question
about what the specifics of the complaint were, which has still not been
answered. Instead the query has been brushed under the carpet and a
pointless quibbling has ensued.
I give up in frustration. Asking a simple question on this list appears to
be a complete wate of effort.
Peter Southwood
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ziko van Dijk" <[email protected]>
To: "Wikimedia Mailing List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2013 1:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage logo
Indeed, and what if the Wikimedia movement looks after its own logos,
would
that be bullying too? :-)
I remember a site with a name like "Wikithistown" (with "Thistown" being
the name of a specific city) with the self-description: "Wikithistown is
the Wikipedia of Thistown", using also the Wikipedia logo. A Wikimedia
representative asked the site makers friendly to reconsider the wording
and
the use of the logo, and they did.
But some Wikipedia volunteers were very pissed off, because "those people
in Thistown are nice and do good things". This has never been disputed,
but
to avoid confusion in the age of Wikileaks it is really important to make
clear who is what and who.
Kind regards
Ziko
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Ziko van Dijk
voorzitter / president Wikimedia Nederland
deputy chair Wikimedia Chapters Association Council
Vereniging Wikimedia Nederland
Postbus 167
3500 AD Utrecht
http://wikimedia.nl
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2013/6/3 Katie Chan <[email protected]>
On 03/06/2013 10:49, Ziko van Dijk wrote:
The case already cost money to the WMF, because of the time invested by
our
legal counsel. As with the Loriot stamps and the office action then,
it's
not worth to loose (even more) money for it. That might look different
in
a
different legal system and with better odds.
I am not quite happy with making this a moral question about 'standing
up
to bullies', Peter. If you want to fight bullying, there is a lot to do
within the Wikipedia editing community...
Kind regards
Ziko
This has already been raised in this thread, but I want to emphaise can
we
please not equate everyone who enforces their trademarks as bullies. If a
trademark holder do not enforces their trademark, they lose the
trademark.
Enforcing ones trademark is what a trademark holder is suppose to do. Now
we can argue that the WTO is being overly broad in their interpretation
of
the similarity between the two logos, then the question becomes whether
the
Wikivoyage logo is worth spending the money fighting over.
KTC
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