Greetings,

I want to agree with Gnangara that the OP has no intention to attack the
user who was cited as an example. Saying User:XYZ received a scholarship
consecutively is not an attack but a statement of fact (if their claim was
actually correct). To be honest, interpreting OP's concern as an attack,
jealousy etc. is far close to assuming good faith. However, I don't think
I'll be interested in a discussion that focus on  "Why was  User:XYZ
awarded a scholarship and not me?" but would be interested in a discussion
that focus on how to improve the selection process".

Regards,

Isaac (
*who has never received a scholarship or apply for one this year)*



On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 6:12 AM, Peter Southwood <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Fair comment, and actionable suggestions.
>
> P
>
>
>
> *From:* Wikimania-l [mailto:[email protected]] *On
> Behalf Of *Kerry Raymond
> *Sent:* Monday, 22 May 2017 4:57 AM
> *To:* 'Wikimania general list (open subscription)'
> *Subject:* Re: [Wikimania-l] Granting Scholarship to same persons every
> year
>
>
>
> This observation has been made by a few people (some of them involved in
> the scholarship decision-making process) is that past recipients often
> continue to out-perform others in terms of the criteria in subsequent
> years. What hasn’t been commented on is why this is so?
>
>
>
> If we believe that an attendee to Wikimania benefits in terms of learning
> new skills, hearing new ideas, making new contacts, then we should hardly
> be surprised if an attendee is then in a position to “grow” as a Wikimedian
> and hence be more able to “out-compete” others who didn’t have the benefit
> of attending. (And If we don’t believe that attendees benefit or grow from
> Wikimania attendance, then we should stop running Wikimania). Also the
> scholarship recipient has an expectation to share with their community what
> they have learned, even that process of sharing adds to their list of
> activities that they can use as evidence as subsequent scholarship
> applications.
>
>
>
> Aside. If you have read the book Freakonomics or followed their blog, you
> will be aware
>
>
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freakonomics
>
>
>
> of their study of how professional footballers tend to have their
> birthdays clustered in a few months of the year and how this phenomenon has
> its roots in spotting football talent in very young players and then
> training them. Because junior sport is usually based around age limits with
> a specific cut-off day, the children who just exceed the age limit by a
> month or two will usually be less physically developed than those who
> exceed the age limit by 10 or 11 months. Thus, the older children in the
> cohort are more likely to be selected for the team and receive coaching.
> Next year (still with a relative age developmental advantage AND with one
> year of extra coaching) these older children in the cohort are again appear
> the most able and again selected for the team (giving them yet another year
> of coaching benefit over those not selected). This cycle repeats throughout
> their childhood ensuring the older ones within the “age year” are
> disproportionate represented in both junior sport and then into college and
> professional sport, giving rise to the observed clustering of birthdays in
> professional footballers.
>
>
>
> This is exactly the same phenomenon as we are seeing with Wikimania
> scholarships.
>
>
>
> How can the playing field of Wikimania scholarships be made a little
> fairer? I don’t think the answer lies in deducting some points from those
> who have had a scholarship before. I think the solution lies in having two
> streams of scholarships, one for the first timers who compete among
> themselves on criteria that assesses their **potential** to “grow”
> through the Wikimania experience and a second set of scholarships for those
> who are applying to come for a second/third/… time with criteria more
> appropriate  to that group, how much did they “grow” and how much did they
> “share” relative to the number of Wikimania opportunities they have had
> (note one might also want to include attendance at Wikimedia Conference and
> other similar movement events in this regard)?
>
>
>
> Note in both streams it is still possible to include factors like the
> Global North/South issue, minority groups, etc in the criteria as
> consistent with the movement’s strategic goals. The key difference is
> whether you are assessing only potential for growth from attending for the
> first-timers as opposed to observed growth from past attending and likely
> potential for further growth from additional attendance for the repeaters.
>
>
>
> If that approach is taken, then the only question that remains is the
> relative number of scholarships (or amount of funds) available in each of
> the two streams. Obviously there’s a range of possibilities, but I would be
> tempted to operate on a simple pro-rata principle at least in the first
> year of operation. After the weeding out of the ineligible or people who
> show poorly against the criteria (however many phases there are to do
> that), look at the size of the two remaining groups and go pro-rata. That
> is, if after the preliminary cull(s), there are 200 potential first-timers
> and 100 potential repeaters, then allocated twice as many scholarship (or
> twice as much funding) to the first-time group as to the repeater group. If
> that does not seem to produce a good mix of attendees, then tweak it
> whichever way seems appropriate the next year.
>
>
>
> My key point is to stop comparing a basket of mixed apples and oranges and
> start comparing apples with apples and oranges with oranges. That should
> give you mix of  the best apples and the best oranges.
>
>
>
> Kerry
>
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