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1. Re: [Wikimedia-l] LGBT+ safety considerations for conference
venues (Pine W)
2. Re: [Wikimedia-l] LGBT+ safety considerations for conference
venues (Amir Ladsgroup)
3. Future Wikimanias (Ellie Young)
4. Re: Future Wikimanias (cs)
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2016 10:26:56 -0700
From: Pine W <[email protected]>
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Young <[email protected]>, "Wikimania general list (open
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Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] [Wikimedia-l] LGBT+ safety considerations
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Hi Pax,
My understanding is that WMF is doing a strategic review of Wikimania. If
that is correct, considerations like the ones you raise about location
could be included in the scope of that review. I'm pinging Ellie with the
hope that she can provide information about the status of WMF's thinking
about Wikimania, perhaps in a new thread. Wikimania involves significant
amounts of time and money, and I am hoping that WMF will develop ways to
align Wikimania with WMF and community strategic goals.
Pine
On Oct 16, 2016 08:10, "Pax Ahimsa Gethen" <[email protected]>
wrote:
Hello all. I had a positive experience at WikiConference North America
last weekend, where I gave a talk on transgender issues and Wikipedia.[1]
I'm posting because there's an active discussion in Wikipedia Weekly on
Facebook about choosing a host country for Wikimania 2018.[2] I am
concerned that some of the suggestions are not taking into account the
safety of LGBT+ people; not just those attending the conference, but also
those living in the host country.
As a queer trans atheist in a same-sex marriage, there are a number of
places where I am considered a criminal for just existing or going about
my
daily routine. This applies to some parts of the U.S. as well, by the
way;
I won't be visiting North Carolina as long as it's illegal for me to use
the men's restroom there. Please keep these considerations in mind when
planning meetups and conferences. Thank you.
- Pax aka Funcrunch
[1] http://funcrunch.org/blog/2016/10/12/making-connections-at-
wikiconference-north-america/
[2] https://www.facebook.com/groups/wikipediaweekly/permalink/
1114259788621851/
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Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2016 18:04:36 +0000
From: Amir Ladsgroup <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] [Wikimedia-l] LGBT+ safety considerations
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We talked about this in the LGBT meetup in Wikimania several times. As far
as I remember it is a huge concern for coordinators and Wikimania
committee
when considering a bid for Wikimania. IIRC, there are several examples
that
situation of LGBT laws was a reason to reject a bid.
So I assure you Wikimania committee is aware of these issues and keeps
this
in their mind when deciding on bids. (I must note I'm not in these
committees. I talked about it with them before as a member of Wikimedia
LGBT)
I'm really saddened by the stupid laws made by ignorance of people. Let's
laugh at it and then educate them:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIvCh3EQv1Q :)
Best
On Sun, Oct 16, 2016 at 8:57 PM Pine W <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Pax,
My understanding is that WMF is doing a strategic review of Wikimania. If
that is correct, considerations like the ones you raise about location
could be included in the scope of that review. I'm pinging Ellie with the
hope that she can provide information about the status of WMF's thinking
about Wikimania, perhaps in a new thread. Wikimania involves significant
amounts of time and money, and I am hoping that WMF will develop ways to
align Wikimania with WMF and community strategic goals.
Pine
On Oct 16, 2016 08:10, "Pax Ahimsa Gethen" <[email protected]>
wrote:
Hello all. I had a positive experience at WikiConference North America
last weekend, where I gave a talk on transgender issues and Wikipedia.[1]
I'm posting because there's an active discussion in Wikipedia Weekly on
Facebook about choosing a host country for Wikimania 2018.[2] I am
concerned that some of the suggestions are not taking into account the
safety of LGBT+ people; not just those attending the conference, but also
those living in the host country.
As a queer trans atheist in a same-sex marriage, there are a number of
places where I am considered a criminal for just existing or going about
my
daily routine. This applies to some parts of the U.S. as well, by the
way;
I won't be visiting North Carolina as long as it's illegal for me to use
the men's restroom there. Please keep these considerations in mind when
planning meetups and conferences. Thank you.
- Pax aka Funcrunch
[1]
http://funcrunch.org/blog/2016/10/12/making-connections-at-wikiconference-north-america/
[2]
https://www.facebook.com/groups/wikipediaweekly/permalink/1114259788621851/
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Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2016 17:24:25 -0700
From: Ellie Young <[email protected]>
To: "Wikimania general list (open subscription)"
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Subject: [Wikimania-l] Future Wikimanias
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This is a follow-up to a posting to this list by the Wikimania Committee
in
July soliciting proposals for people who might be interested in hosting a
future Wikimania (especially 2018 and 2019), as follows:
">
We are now looking for proposals of teams and locations. This is not a
bidding process; we are keen for this to be a light-weight, simple request
for suggestions. You don’t need to have a venue locked down, contracts
drafted or sponsors lined up. You can have a quick look at the “judging
criteria” which were used for 2016,[2] but the key part is commitment. In
deciding where to hold conferences, we have to take into account
additional
factors about potential sites such as cost,
accessibility, and security.
">
I will be following up with various people who have expressed interest in
the coming week. If anyone else is interested in discussing the
possibilities (the team/prospective host need not be tied to a particular
venue), please get in touch with me directly by October 30, 2016. We
will be working with the WM
F
in the coming months in finalizing a venue/team for 2018, and we also want
to get an early start at identifying potentials for the following year.>
Thank you,
Ellie Young
WMF Events Manager
[email protected]
[2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2016_judging_criteria
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Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2016 13:33:54 +0700
From: cs <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Future Wikimanias
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I am seriously interested in organising a Wikimania in Bangkok.
The Thai Wiki does not have a functional chapter, but there is a user
group chaired by a professor at Thailand’s major Medical College, and we
have collaborated on various projects.
With our combined knowledge we could get a team together fofr 2018 0r 2019
probably 2019 would be best. .
I have experience in event management. Taweetham has lived and studiedfor
his PhD in Australia and has attended several Wikimanias. I have lived in
Thailand for nearly 20 years and was a professor at a government
university in Bangkok for several years.
Bangkok has an ideal geo location, it’s a very modern city with excellent
transport and communications infrastructures. (two large interation
airports only 20 mins from the city centre; highly developed urban rapid
mass transport systems; first class Internet).
Food, accommodation, and other facilities for visitors cost roughly one
sixth of those in Western (USA, Canada, Australia, Europe,) or Westernised
economies (HK, Singapore, etc).
Chris
(Kudpung)
On 17Oct, 2016, at 07:24, Ellie Young <[email protected]> wrote:
This is a follow-up to a posting to this list by the Wikimania Committee
in July soliciting proposals for people who might be interested in
hosting a future Wikimania (especially 2018 and 2019), as follows:
"We are now looking for proposals of teams and locations. This is not a
bidding process; we are keen for this to be a light-weight, simple
request for suggestions. You don’t need to have a venue locked down,
contracts drafted or sponsors lined up. You can have a quick look at the
“judging criteria” which were used for 2016,[2] but the key part is
commitment. In deciding where to hold conferences, we have to take into
account additional factors about potential sites such as cost,
accessibility, and security. ">>
I will be following up with various people who have expressed interest in
the coming week. If anyone else is interested in discussing the
possibilities (the team/prospective host need not be tied to a particular
venue), please get in touch with me directly by October 30, 2016. We
will be working with the WM
F in the coming months in finalizing a venue/team for 2018, and we
also want to get an early start at identifying potentials for the
following year.>>
Thank you,
Ellie Young
WMF Events Manager
[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
[2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2016_judging_criteria
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2016_judging_criteria>>>
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