Hello Marc,

I was not on the planning team for this part of the program at the last
Wikimania, but I volunteered to facilitate several sessions and also
participated in several more.

There are key difference from having a topic interest group hold a session
to talk informally among themselves, and the way that the critical
discussions are done.

Both are important ways for people in our movement to communicate at a
wikiconferences. The first approach...BoF...will happen with or without
assistance from the organizers doing much to help. The approach is
dependent on the conference organizing team providing space, a facilitator,
note taker, and a process to select topics that are of interest to the
broader wikimedia movement.

The critical discussions that I attended were well attended, well
facilitated, and had a better wrap up conclusion than less formal
discussions. So, I hope that the next Wikimania will include a track for
these more formally organized discussion sessions.

Warm regards,
Sydney

Sydney Poore
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On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 11:56 AM, Leila Zia <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 6:35 AM, Marc-Andre <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hey Leila,
>>
>> On 2016-08-10 01:08 AM, Leila Zia wrote:
>>
>> Are we considering to not continue the support for the Discussion Rooms
>> idea as suggested
>> <https://wikimania2014.wikimedia.org/wiki/Submissions/Discussion_Room>
>> in Wikimania London and explored in London, Mexico City, and Esino Lario?
>> If so, can you expand why? Quite a few of the Discussion sessions in Esino
>> Lario were very well attended, the participants took active role in these
>> sessions, and the general sentiment that I got from these sessions was that
>> they were helpful.
>>
>>
>> I'm not sure how you get to that conclusion - BoF sessions are a more
>> general concept that encompasses discussions neatly; I'm not sure why you
>> feel that does not provide support?
>>
>> Perhaps there is an aspect I didn't understand.  What's missing?
>>
>
>
> ​From the point of view of an audience of these sessions, I see few
> differences: There is a specific structure to Discussion Room sessions that
> is described in, for example here
> <https://wikimania2016.wikimedia.org/wiki/Discussions#Outline>. There is
> also a process regarding call for proposals/abstracts, reviewing them, and
> accepting them. This level of freedom for a subset of people (Discussion
> Room organizers) to control the outline and processes around Discussion
> Room sessions may be in contrast with what you said earlier regarding the
> conditions that you would like to define for discussions happening under
> BoF: " They are generally more specialized or aimed towards a more precise
> public, and are not selected by the programme committee nor curated beyond
> a simple set of criteria[1] so they are more free-form." and "[1] They need
> to be directly related to the movement or an allied movement.​​". I want to
> specifically emphasize "nor curated beyond a simple set of criteria".
>
> If you see a way for allowing/having the kind of structure and process
> that Discussion Rooms require under BoF, then I have no more questions. :)
> If not, I'd appreciate if you help me understand this better.
>
> Thanks,
> Leila
>
>
>>
>> -- Marc
>>
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