That would indeed be better, but it would require a huge amount of extra
work for PC chairs and a much more sophisticated software than EasyChair...

On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 11:32 AM, Gnangarra <[email protected]> wrote:

> Wouldnt it be better to have redacted the anomaly and aggregated to two
> remaining scores rather then three scores because other the review is
> meaningless as it the anomaly in place and therefore create the wasted
> effort, where an 8 and 3 occurs if the third score is a 10 then the 3 is
> the anomaly and the average should be 9 where the third score is 4 then the
> 8 is the anomaly and the average is 3.5
>
>
>
>
>
> On 5 February 2016 at 18:19, Michele Lavazza <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> @Andrew pleas take a look at
>> https://wikimania2016.wikimedia.org/wiki/Programme for "the proportion,
>> appropriateness or overall relationship of user digest presentations,
>> critical issues or discussions".
>>
>> @Marc-André thank you for your remarks, this is just to say that in the
>> end there was no need to implement the so-called "WMF quota" because less
>> than 10 WMF staff submission were among the top 40.
>>
>> @Those who have doubts about the consistency of our implementation of a
>> third evaluation in those cases where the first two were strongly
>> divergent: this was a technically arduous thing, since clearly assigning a
>> third review presupposes having two already. Having a deadline to respect,
>> we tried to make sure to have the first two reviews for each submission a
>> few days before the deadline (which proved impossible because of personal
>> difficulties of some members of our international reviewing team). We would
>> then add the third reviews when needed. This still was a heavy bulk of
>> extra work, so we decided not to request the extra review for those
>> submissions whose average score after the first two reviews was too low to
>> make it possible for a third review to make the relevant submission
>> competitive for acceptance. (For example: if the top 50 submissions, with 2
>> reviews or 3 where needed, already had an average score higher than 7.5, we
>> didn't assign a third reviewer to a submission whose first two scores were
>> 3 and 8, because, even if the third review were a 10, the average would
>> still be lower than that 7.5).
>>
>> I hope I answered a few of the most urgent questions. Thank you all for
>> expressing you perplexities, criticism, or questions. I realise some
>> aspects of the double blind peer review process have been suboptimal and
>> we're trying to make sure both that the conference sessions will be
>> great nevertheless, and that our experience is useful for the future
>> Wikimanias.
>>
>> Thank you very much,
>> yours,
>>
>> Michele
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 11:38 PM, Lodewijk <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> quick update about the discussions track: I'm coordinating that together
>>> with a few others, and this will probably be a bit later in time that most
>>> of the other sessions. This is a continuation of the Discussion Room of
>>> 2014/2015 <https://wikimania2015.wikimedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Room>,
>>> and focuses on roundtabe discussions of 40-45 minutes each on a specific
>>> topic. That is mostly because there's less preparation required for those
>>> discussions, so we love to have them decided a bit later and have them be
>>> more 'hot and current'. We hope to open improve the descriptions of that
>>> soon though, and open suggestions for that too.
>>>
>>> We're currently planning to formally open discussion suggestions on Feb
>>> 25 or a bit before. But in the mean time, if you're afraid to forget to
>>> submit it by then, feel free to leave behind ideas here:
>>> https://wikimania2016.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Discussions&action=edit&redlink=1
>>> (Shani's list of points sounds good in general, although proposals with
>>> less information are also welcome for roundtable discussions)
>>>
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Lodewijk
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 9:32 PM, Shani <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Following Andrew's comments, here's what I know --
>>>>
>>>> 1 - User Digest is just one session of about 30 minutes. Liaisons pick
>>>> the speakers to that. It's supposed to give a review of the thematic
>>>> subject - GLAM, EDU, etc.
>>>>
>>>> 2 - I'm posting here what I've sent to the Cultural Partners Mailing
>>>> List -
>>>>
>>>> *​"*I've just updated the GLAM part on the program liaison page on Meta
>>>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2016_bids/Esino_Lario/Program/Liaisons#GLAM>,
>>>> putting there everything from our joint google doc.
>>>>
>>>> Now that the "critical issues" submission part is over, *it's high
>>>> time to submit your suggestions *to all the other aspects of our GLAM
>>>> track, if you haven't done so thus far. This includes suggestions for:
>>>> ** Discussions*
>>>> ** Workshops / Training*
>>>> ** Posters*
>>>> ** Lightning talks*
>>>> * *Anything else we might have forgotten*
>>>>
>>>> Some of you have already contacted me privately about *discussions *
>>>> and *workshops,* so please feel free to update the relevant part on
>>>> meta.
>>>> Try to keep it in the same format as suggested below, so it's easier to
>>>> follow -
>>>> * Title:
>>>> * Purpose:
>>>> * Target audience:
>>>> * Length:
>>>> * Max number of people (only if there is a limitation on your part):
>>>> * Facilitator(s):
>>>> * any other detail that will help others get a sense of the workshop
>>>> and what you want to achieve.
>>>> Please see an example I posted on behalf of Barbara Fischer -- building
>>>> the GLAM KIT library
>>>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2016_bids/Esino_Lario/Program/Liaisons#Building_the_GLAM_KIT_library>
>>>> .* "*
>>>>
>>>> In other words*, use the liaison page for now,* till the organizing
>>>> team has the separate pages ready.
>>>> - Follow the format suggest, so it's cohesive and easier to follow.
>>>> - Show your support to proposals, the wiki-way. The organizing team
>>>> will take that into consideration.
>>>> - When the organizing team opens submissions for the remaining parts --
>>>> submit!
>>>>
>>>> Hope that helps,
>>>> Shani.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 7:39 PM, Marc A. Pelletier <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2016-02-04 3:22 AM, WereSpielChequers wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hope Montreal manages something a bit better,
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't know about "better", nor do I think it quite fair to slam the
>>>>> 2016 team either for what was clearly intended to be an attempt to improve
>>>>> the process - even if some of the results appear suboptimal in retrospect.
>>>>>
>>>>> FWIW, the Montreal team is keeping a close eye on the experiments
>>>>> being done by the Italian team - no doubt there will be a valuable set of
>>>>> lessons learned and we may be able to translate some of the things that
>>>>> worked well into improvements to future Wikimanias.
>>>>>
>>>>> As for the programme selection, we are gunning for a process that
>>>>> splits about 30% invited, 40% community CFP, and 30% unconference-style,
>>>>> with the selection process for the CFP being very close to past years
>>>>> (i.e.: public review on-wiki).  We also don't intend to make a distinction
>>>>> between submissions by Foundation staff and the other community members,
>>>>> though we expect that many presentations that would have been proposals by
>>>>> staff will end up being invited directly by the programming committee
>>>>> leaving more "slots" available to the CFP.
>>>>>
>>>>> -- Marc
>>>>>
>>>>>
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