dear all
to collect strengths and weakness of this system of review you can add you 
comments in the discussion page 
https://wikimania2016.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Critical_issues_presentations#Feedback_and_Evaluation
 
I have stated reporting your feedback, but please do not hesitate to correct, 
modify, add.

please consider
1. there are other kind of submissions: go for them! (we are updating them 
Monday February 8th) https://wikimania2016.wikimedia.org/wiki/Submissions. 
2. we are experimenting, surely to make Montreal better than us :) this is a 
clear objective of Wikimania Esino Lario 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2016_bids/Esino_Lario/Evaluation
3. thank you to all reviewers and people who made submissions!!! 

iolanda/iopensa


> Il giorno 04 feb 2016, alle ore 09:22, WereSpielChequers 
> <[email protected]> ha scritto:
> 
> Two reviews per submission might work if we had a clear set of criteria that 
> the reviewers were following and sufficient training of the reviewers that 
> they were broadly consistent in their marking. But when you get the same 
> presentation being marked as 5 and 8, as one of mine was then the suspicion 
> is that the assessors are not working to the same criteria as each other. 
> That wouldn't matter so much if they were all assessing all submissions, 
> except that an assessor who varied between 0 and ten points would have far 
> more influence than assessors who usually voted 6, 7 or 8. But having that 
> level of inconsistency and only two reviews per submission makes the process 
> a lottery that depends on who the two reviewers are for your submission.
> 
> As for the content of the reviews, I don't consider that either "5 (average)" 
> or "6 (rather interesting) tell me anything as to why my submissions were 
> rejected.
> 
> The other two reviews at least managed one or two lines. One of them even 
> stretched to two sentences.
> 
> Hope Montreal manages something a bit better, I'm sure either Manilla or 
> Perth would have done.
> 
> 
> WereSpielChequers
> 
> 
> On 3 Feb 2016, at 23:22, Dariusz Jemielniak <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> 
>> hi,
>> 
>> I have some comments as a person from Academia (and not involved in 
>> Wikimania process in any way):
>> 
>> 1. Short reviews are definitely not helping in addressing the frustration of 
>> rejection, yet are quite common in academic peer reviewing, especially for 
>> conferences. 
>> 
>> 2. Double blind peer review (not knowing who is reviewed, and not knowing 
>> who reviews) is a standard in Academia, although some perceive it as 
>> contributing to lack of responsibility (especially true in competitive 
>> journal submissions).
>> 
>> 3. Two reviewers per submission is absolutely on par with the conference 
>> standards I'm used to. Sometimes there are three, but two is absolutely 
>> acceptable (although a third opinion should be used if the two disagree too 
>> much). 
>> 
>> 4. It could be useful to sensitize the reviewers that the main purpose of 
>> the review is to help the author to do better next time. 
>> 
>> 5. All this is volunteer work. We should be, generally, grateful to 
>> reviewers (but in the same time grateful to the contributors, too). 
>> 
>> best,
>> 
>> dj
>> 
>> On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 5:26 PM, Maarten Dammers <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> What kind of ridiculous process is this? This is all I got:
>> 
>> ===============
>> 
>> ----------------------- REVIEW 1 ---------------------
>> PAPER: 194
>> TITLE: GLAM+Wikidata
>> AUTHORS: Sandra Fauconnier and Maarten Dammers
>> 
>> OVERALL EVALUATION: 8 (Very good)
>> 
>> ----------- REVIEW -----------
>> 8
>> 
>> 
>> ----------------------- REVIEW 2 ---------------------
>> PAPER: 194
>> TITLE: GLAM+Wikidata
>> AUTHORS: Sandra Fauconnier and Maarten Dammers
>> 
>> OVERALL EVALUATION: 6 (Rather interesting)
>> 
>> ----------- REVIEW -----------
>> 6
>> 
>> ==============
>> 
>> So only two people reviewed this? Who are these people? Why is this secret? 
>> Last year I had 5 people reviewing my submission [1].
>> 
>> Maarten
>> 
>> [1] https://wikimania2015.wikimedia.org/wiki/Submission_review/5 
>> <https://wikimania2015.wikimedia.org/wiki/Submission_review/5>
>> 
>> Op 3-2-2016 om 23:15 schreef Andy Mabbett:
>>> I've just received feedback on one of my pitches saying, in part:
>>> 
>>> "Bad boy Andy! This is supposed to be an anonymous review process, so 
>>> starting your abstract with your own name, is not entirely fair."
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Andy Mabbett
>>> @pigsonthewing
>>> http://pigsonthewing.org.uk <http://pigsonthewing.org.uk/>
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>> -- 
>> 
>> __________________________
>> prof. dr hab. Dariusz Jemielniak
>> kierownik katedry Zarządzania Międzynarodowego
>> i grupy badawczej NeRDS
>> Akademia Leona Koźmińskiego
>> http://n <http://www.crow.alk.edu.pl/>wrds.kozminski.edu.pl 
>> <http://wrds.kozminski.edu.pl/> 
>> 
>> członek Akademii Młodych Uczonych Polskiej Akademii Nauk
>> członek Komitetu Polityki Naukowej MNiSW
>> 
>> Wyszła pierwsza na świecie etnografia Wikipedii "Common Knowledge? An 
>> Ethnography of Wikipedia" (2014, Stanford University Press) mojego autorstwa 
>> http://www.sup.org/book.cgi?id=24010 <http://www.sup.org/book.cgi?id=24010>
>> 
>> Recenzje
>> Forbes: http://www.forbes.com/fdc/welcome_mjx.shtml 
>> <http://www.forbes.com/fdc/welcome_mjx.shtml>
>> Pacific Standard: 
>> http://www.psmag.com/navigation/books-and-culture/killed-wikipedia-93777/ 
>> <http://www.psmag.com/navigation/books-and-culture/killed-wikipedia-93777/>
>> Motherboard: http://motherboard.vice.com/read/an-ethnography-of-wikipedia 
>> <http://motherboard.vice.com/read/an-ethnography-of-wikipedia>
>> The Wikipedian: 
>> http://thewikipedian.net/2014/10/10/dariusz-jemielniak-common-knowledge 
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