OK, great that you like it - but what is your argument for it? I get the arguments for measuring distance in flight cost rather than time, and I get the reasoning that conferences shouldn't be too close together. But why should a conference in China disqualify Australia? Or why should London disqualify New York? Or even Moscow?
Before we start to come up with all kind of random reasonings: focus on the basics please. We want the conference to cover multiple places, be relatively as cheap as possible and also be fun to attend. Did anyone do a calculation whether holding it in an expensive city (say, London) with cheaper flights actually /is/ cheaper than holding it in a cheap city in Asia (say, Delhi or Mumbai)? And then I don't mean WMF-budget wise, but total costs: including the costs by all affiliates, and the costs privately paid for by the volunteers. I recall being positively surprised that there was very little difference between India and Berlin for the chapters meeting... Best, Lodewijk On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 3:10 AM, Gnangarra <[email protected]> wrote: > I like the idea of distance as measure to choose the next location, but > that should also be coupled with a timezone factor +- 6 hours at a minimum > as well... > > Wikimania still needs a local group to volunteers who understand the > local language and customs, it needs their enthusiasm and energy to keep it > on the front burner locally > > On 5 October 2015 at 16:33, WereSpielChequers <[email protected] > > wrote: > >> >> I agree that we should make rotation explicit, but that doesn't need to >> be done by region. We could achieve the same by requiring each bid to be a >> long haul flight from the previous one, and a medium haul flight from the >> one before. Under the region proposal we could have Amman in Asia, Cairo in >> Africa and Athens in Europe all within four years. Or El Paso, Texas one >> year and_Juarez, Chihuahua the next. >> >> I suggest that instead we make the rotation explicit by distance, 4000 >> miles from the preceding venue, 3,000 miles from the one before that, 2,000 >> from the one three years prior and 1000 from the one four years earlier. We >> should also have a rule that prioritises countries that welcome such events >> with a more open visa policy. >> >> Also if the Foundation wants to get better value for money, the venues >> could be determined through a commercial evaluation looking for the best >> value locations in the world regardless of whether or not there are locally >> organised wikimedians. Then get the programme determined by global >> volunteers. It wouldn't be too much of a burden on scholarship attendees if >> they got an email with their flight details asking them to volunteer to >> moderate or video a session. >> >> Jonathan >> >> >> On 4 Oct 2015, at 21:57, Ralf Roletschek <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Yes, thats right. +1 >> >> 2015-10-04 22:55 GMT+02:00 Federico Leva (Nemo) <[email protected]>: >> >>> What I like about the explicit rotation: >>> * more transparency, the rotation is no longer an unwritten rule; >>> * more time (2 years) to make Wikimania great, less volunteer time spent >>> on (concurring) bids; >>> * more concreteness and (hopefully) cooperation in the selection stage, >>> less "let's beat continent X"; >>> * more pragmatism, recognising we can't always flight the biggest groups >>> of people in the farthest places. >>> >>> Nemo >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikimania-l mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> ------ >> Ralf Roletschek >> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Ralf_Roletschek >> Fragen zum Fahrrad? - http://www.fahrradmonteur.de >> Hinweis wegen immer mehr aufkommendem Werbemüll: Alle Mails, die die >> Wörter "Faceb00k" oder "Twi††er" enthalten, landen bei mir ungelesen im >> Spam. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimania-l mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimania-l mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l >> >> > > > -- > GN. > Vice President Wikimedia Australia > WMAU: http://www.wikimedia.org.au/wiki/User:Gnangarra > Photo Gallery: http://gnangarra.redbubble.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimania-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l > >
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