I like several of Kerry's points.

I did mention to Luis at WMCON that it might be more cost-effective, and
potentially higher impact for some participants, to put more emphasis on
national (or thematic) conferences and less on the general Wikimania
conference.

Pine


On Sat, Aug 1, 2015 at 8:55 PM, Kerry Raymond <[email protected]>
wrote:

> I think you put your finger on a key point here. We have a large community
> of “totally deserving people” but mostly get little/no recognition of their
> contribution.
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> Most organisations that rely on volunteers have a range of ways to
> recognising their efforts. In the world of WMF, other editors can give you
> a “thanks” or a barnstar/Wikilove but WMF itself does not seem to do much
> to recognise volunteers.  So when “totally deserving” people apply for a
> Wikimania scholarship, of course people are going to see this as a chance
> to  be recognised by WMF for their contributions. As most of the “totally
> deserving” will be unsuccessful in gaining a Wikimania scholarship, of
> course they are going to  feel it as “demotivating”, “unfair” and “likely
> to reduce their contributions” as the surveying suggests. Sure there’s
> disappointment at not going to Wikimania, but I suspect the bigger issue is
> that the apparent lack of recognition of their contribution that comes as
> part and parcel of it. And a standard rejection letter that says “We
> appreciate your contribution, but alas there aren’t enough scholarships”
> fall a little short on the “recognition” front!
>
>
>
> Perhaps if the WMF looked at ways of recognising the “totally deserving”
> volunteers in other ways, then the Wikimania scholarships would not become
> as big an issue. One example might be cheaper scholarships to attend a
> national event (which also avoids visa issues) or funding towards hosting a
> local event within their community at which their contribution can be
> recognised among their peers. Announcing an award to them in their local
> media might be something people might value. Others might like a trophy for
> their mantelpiece suitably inscribed. I am sure others can think of more
> ideas and I note that we may need different ideas for different communities
> as what people value is different. For example,  although the merchandise
> giveaway is well-intended,
>
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>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Merchandise_giveaways/Nominations
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> has anyone considered if short-sleeved thin T-shirts are something
> everyone in the world sees as a recognition? What about the countries were
> the arms are kept covered for modesty or sun exposure? What about the
> countries where T-shirts are seen as a “low status clothes”?
>
>
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> I also note that a return to partial scholarships would mean more people
> were recognised wrt to Wikimania. The comment that the administration of
> partial scholarships was too much work for WMF staff sends an unpleasant
> signal about how WMF values its staff time relative to the time spent by
> “totally deserving” volunteers.
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> In summary, I think WMF has a problem with its “totally deserving”
> volunteers feeling unappreciated which is much larger than Wikimania. Given
> the cost and effort of running annual Wikimanias for a relatively small
> number of people, perhaps they should be less frequent with other kinds of
> events and forms of recognition using the equivalent cost and effort in
> between in order to spread the “wikilove” a bit more widely?
>
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>
> Kerry
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> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
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> *Sent:* Friday, 31 July 2015 11:24 PM
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> *Subject:* Re: [Wikimania-l] Fwd: Wikimania Scholarship
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> The problem is myths and rumours will arise always in a process that is
> not (and should not) be objective. We can't just give some
>
> It is a subjective process where you evaluate so many people, with
> different backgrounds and different contributions. What is more important?
> Founding a chapter or making 100,000 edits on English Wikipedia? 5,000
> edits on a smaller Wikipedia or 10,000 images on Wikimedia Commons? How do
> we make also possible to bring people outside our movement or with very few
> edits, but that are great promoting free knowledge? And how do we ensure
> gender balance? Do we prioritize new attendents than can bring new ideas to
> our movement or do we support experienced members that have a proven record
> of great presentations and activities?
>
> When you have a very limited number of scholarships and a lot of great
> applicants, every time you make a decision to give a scholarship to
> someone, you are taking it from someone else. And usually, that other
> person totally deserve it. So, even though the committees have tried to
> have a balance of all these factors, someone will complain and consider it
> not fair. General numbers will help to reduce these rumours, but they will
> always come up again.
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