If you're interested in discussing the future of Wikimania, perhaps it
makes sense to do that on the dedicated list? Just a wild thought.

Best, Lodewijk

2014-10-10 13:25 GMT+02:00 Fæ <[email protected]>:

> Based on a prompt from Itzik, I checked the archives of wikimania-l
> (which I was not subscribed to). There is a message from Stuart Prior
> there with a very brief summary of background of jury members which I
> was unaware of and it may have been intended as a response to my
> question. Refer to
> <
> https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimania-l/2014-October/006418.html
> >.
>
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> Thanks,
> Fae
>
> On 10 October 2014 11:48, Fæ <[email protected]> wrote:
> > The conclusion in response to Itzik's original question "how the
> > current jury was elected and by who", is that the Wikimania jury is
> > not elected, it was selected by a WMF employee against unpublished and
> > presumably undefined criteria. Sadly, there are no plans or commitment
> > by the WMF to change or improve this process to make it transparent or
> > volunteer-centric.
> >
> > We also know that at least 5 out of 7 members of the jury have been
> > employees. It may be more, but there has been no reply to this
> > question.
> >
> > It is disturbing that asking questions of governance is being parodied
> > as referring to jury members as "second class citizens". Nobody apart
> > from a member of the jury has made such a ridiculous statement.
> >
> > Being an employee is not something that should be hidden or kept
> > secret. The community should be free to ask questions about the
> > balance of volunteers in an important jury with responsibility for how
> > several hundred thousand dollars of donated funds gets spent in order
> > to ensure a healthy balance of viewpoints. Having basic governance
> > questions marginalized and parodied by the jury is a disappointing
> > demonstration of how transparency and accountability will be handled
> > for future Wikimania events.
> >
> > It is obvious that improvement is needed. It would be great to see
> > commitment to change, rather than just defence of the status quo.
> >
> > Fae
>
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