As a quick note, the ticket prices for GLAM-Wiki in 2013 were set in two tiers - simply "individual" and "institutional", and we left it to people to figure out what they felt was appropriate in their case. I don't think there was a "Wikimedian" rate, but this was implicitly who we were targeting with "individual".
Both were probably below-cost, at £20 and £50 (?) for two days, but I don't have a copy of the calculations to hand to be sure by how much - in any case, the only major cost was that of catering for two days, as the venue and technical support were covered either by the BL or WMUK, and a part-contribution to the cost of speakers travel. One issue that might be worth bearing in mind is that a below-cost ticket for Wikimania 2014 might well cost substantially more than an above-cost ticket for Wikimania 2005 - as Wikimania has grown, it's being run at a pretty high standard and the costs are no doubt climbing to match. If we want a cheaper conference - should we be scaling back to something less expensive and less professional? Andrew. On 23 March 2014 01:54, Deryck Chan <[email protected]> wrote: > Wikimania indeed has a tradition of setting artificially low entry prices > for the reasons Nicholas described earlier in this thread. Of course, > there's nothing to stop Wikimania 2014 from raising ticket prices. I should > remind though that until 2013 we basically have a hierarchy of 4 ticket > prices: > > 1. Non-Wikimedian price: supposedly the full cost (but is still effectively > slightly subsidised) > 2. Wikimedian price: substantially subsidised entry and food, for those > who've paid a lot to travel to the venue from the other side of the world > 3. Partial scholarship: for those who can almost / just about afford to > attend Wikimania on their own budget, but would use up their savings unless > their air travel was subsidised. The partial scholarship encourages them to > go to *more* Wikimanias. > 4. Full scholarship (for those who simply can't afford Wikimania) > > In 2014, the partial scholarship is removed, so I would hesitate to raise > the Wikimedian ticket prices, lest we disincentivise "medium-income" > Wikimedians (particularly students) from attending. However, by all means > consider raising the non-Wikimedian price, or even have a "donor price" > (full cost + £100, say?) with a shiny badge to let generous attendees pay > more! > > Deryck > > Deryck > > On 23 Mar 2014 08:07, "Charles Gregory" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> My impression was that the prices took into account that (a) most members >> of the Wikimedia community are volunteers (b) most attendees have paid many >> hundreds, if not thousands of US$ in airfares/accommodation costs to attend, >> on top of the ticket price. Volunteers also have to use up their own annual >> leave (or forgo wages) if their Wikimedia activities are not on behalf of >> their employer. >> >> You could get away with having separate rates. The other conference I >> have experience with, Linux.conf.au, has rates which differ by almost an >> order of magnitude: Professional $899, Hobbyist $399, Student $99. (These >> prices are Australian dollars, which is approx USD +/- 10%) (IMHO the >> Hobbyist rate here is still a bit high for a volunteer.) This conference >> is, however, a major source of income for Linux Australia, whereas Wikimania >> is indirectly supported by donations to WMF. >> >> Regards, >> >> Charles >> >> >> >> On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 10:34 AM, Nicholas Bashour >> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> For Wikimania 2012, I remember that we wanted to make sure the largest >>> number of people could attend. DC was an expensive enough city that we felt >>> if registration prices were too high, it may discourage some of the people >>> who didn't get scholarships from attending. >>> >>> That being said, there's no reason why future Wikimanias shouldn't offer >>> various pricing options, like higher "individual sponsorship" registration >>> for those who want to sponsor on a smaller level, student registration, etc. >>> >>> Sincerely, >>> Nicholas Michael Bashour >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> > Am 22.03.2014 um 19:21 schrieb Samuel Klein <[email protected]>: >>> > >>> > Proposed prices for Wikimania tickets continue to seem artificially >>> > low. I'm not sure what the benefit to this is. Could people who have >>> > run events in other contexts comment on how you set ticket prices? >>> > >>> > In my experience, tickets are set at roughly what it costs for each >>> > person to attend. Then there may be different sorts of tickets: for >>> > local supporters & volunteers, for school groups, for students & >>> > community members, presenters, VIPs & sponsors. Sponsorship helps >>> > ensure how many tickets of each type there are. Last-minute tickets >>> > are more expensive. >>> > >>> > This has a few benefits: >>> > * tickets fully cover the cost of food and materials >>> > * tickets contribute significantly to covering the cost of the event >>> > * scholarships and reimbursements for attendance (for scholars, >>> > professionals, academics all getting covered by their home >>> > institutions), in paying for tickets, cover the full cost of those >>> > people attending the event. >>> > * more accurate headcounts in advance. >>> > >>> > Warmly, >>> > Sam >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Wikimania-l mailing list >>> > [email protected] >>> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikimania-l mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimania-l mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l >> > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimania-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l > -- - Andrew Gray [email protected] _______________________________________________ Wikimania-l mailing list [email protected] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l
