On 4 October 2012 22:05, Steven Walling <[email protected]> wrote:

> Thanks for starting this thread.
>

Thanks Deror Lin for the idea :)


> It's cool to hear thinking about Wikimania 2013 speaker options early
> on. I really like the categories Andrew proposed, and I think it will help
> clarify the thinking around what different speakers can bring to the table.
>
> On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 10:21 AM, Andrew Lih <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> 1. Ray Chan, 9gag. Certainly 9gag has made a splash in the geekier
>> Internet community, but it would be good to see what he'd want to talk
>> about first and whether it had any relevance to Wikipedians and free
>> culture. Important to remember: Wikimania is first and foremost a community
>> event, not just a great speaker series.
>>
>
> In addition to what Andrew said...
>
> To be totally honest: 9gag is viewed by many Internet communities, such as
> Reddit and 4chan, as a leech which contributes very little to these
> communities. There are often rules that explicitly disallow use of 9gag
> stuff on some of these sites. I don't think we necessarily want to align
> ourselves with 9gag, and I don't think they would have much of substance to
> say about how read online community is formed or operates.
>

> If we want a general meme-ery speaker, Chris Poole of 4chan and Canvas
> fame would be fantastic, though like Andrew said, the direct connection is
> somewhat tenuous.
>

Ray Chan was proposed because he is the most world-famous internet
entrepreneur born and bred in Hong Kong, ie. on the premise of "local and
world famous" rather than on the merits of 9gag. Thanks for the ideas
though.

>
>
>> 2. Charles Mok, certainly relevant to the conference, but not sure how
>> exciting a speaker he is.
>>
>> 3. Arianna Huffington. Not really a fan of this pick. Can get quite
>> political, and not obvious the overlap between her site and free culture.
>>
>
> +1. Too American-centric, too political.
>
>
>> 4. Thomas Crampton is a good pick. He was a respected working journalist
>> and may be able to set the table on what Wikipedia and free culture mean
>> across Asia.
>>
>> 5. Don't know much about Ada Wong.
>>
>> That said, how about some other ideas:
>>
>> 1. Joi Ito. He's a great friend of Wikipedia, and spoke in 2007 Wikimania
>> in Taiwan. He's now MIT Media Lab director, and could give great Asia
>> perspectives.
>>
>
> Joi also has a strong free culture perspective. I think as far as someone
> who can balance a global and regional perspective, he's a great pick.
>
> Maybe a wiki page about the options would be a good place to store a list
> for consideration?
>
>
> http://wikimania2013.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Keynotes&action=edit&redlink=1:)
>

Would prefer to keep the discussion on Wikimania-l so that it'll be a
public consultation but not too Googlable. I don't think Arianna Huffington
will be impressed if she sees on [[wm2013:keynote]] "Arianna Huffington:
too America-centric, we don't like her" :)

Deryck
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