The problem is, that it takes someone to step forward and DO something. Ed is not a Wikipedian per se, but he has donated a lot of time so far and the question is - do we want a half-assed volunteer attempt plagued by volunteers flaking out etc. Or do we want Wikimania.
If someone objects so strongly to paying people to organise a Wikimania bid then cool; but I'd suggest they have to commit to driving the bid instead :) With that said; the budget is rather large and I am sure it will be discussed at the meeting tomorrow. Tom On 25 August 2012 20:32, James Hare <[email protected]> wrote: > Staffing is a very good thing to spend money on—while executing the > conference. Spending $62,000 on staff for a bid would be worth the > investment if bidding for Wikimania were anything like bidding for the > Olympics, but it is not. The spirit of Wikimania is ultimately from its > volunteer leadership, and if the Wikimedia UK volunteers cannot muster that > spirit to run their own bid, they have no hope and no soul. > > > James > > > On Aug 25, 2012, at 3:28 PM, Itzik Edri wrote: > > Sorry, it's undiplomatic to interfere with others budget plans - but I > just can't ignore how the future of Wikimania will look like if others will > follow UK plans to invest £40,000 only for the bid process (about 62,000$). > > I wrote my last response on that few minutes ago: > > http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:2013_Activity_Plan#5.2_Wikiconference_2013 > > > "Hire a production company for half of this cost. It's really waste of > donors money, for what we expect to be done by volunteers, or for a minimum > costs. If every one who going to bid for Wikimania will spent this amount > of money (and why them not? if UK can, why others not?), it's mean that for > 4 places every year we are "spending" more than 260,000$ only for the > bid!!!. --217.132.1.140 19:22, 25 August 2012 (UTC)" > > I really think the "Wikimania" groups need to speak about that. It's the > first time a group/chapter spending such amount of money for bid, and it's > open a door for next cities to do the same - with money which can uses to > invest in Wikimania itself. > > > Itzik > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimania-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimania-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l > >
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