That's not a bad idea actually! But I imagine people would be baying for blood 
quite quickly ;)

Joe

On 19 Jul 2012, at 23:22, Lodewijk wrote:

> Something I would personally appreciate as an improvement, is a block of 2 
> hour around lunch with NO INTERNET! That ought to improve the mingling :) 
> 
> Also speeddating seems to be an effective method (there are many ways to 
> accomplish that). 
> 
> Lodewijk
> 
> 2012/7/19 Katherine Casey <[email protected]>
> I agree with Florence's comment about being sad that Wikimania is no longer a 
> giant meetup. For all that the talks and lectures are very informative, I 
> sort of wish that we had the GLAM track lecture, the Dev track, the 
> [whatever] track, AND the "I just want to hang out with people" track. Give 
> those of us who show up mostly because we want to meet and talk to other 
> Wikimanians a big room, and maybe a lot of beer or snacks, and see what 
> develops! We end up ad-hoc-ing this oftentimes by using the ballroom, or the 
> lobby, or whatever large space, but even those are often set up in a way that 
> makes me think it never occurred to anyone that some of us would spend most 
> of our time there if we could. Lack of seating or enough outlets, the 
> tendency Florence mentions for people to clump off at tables by their 
> affiliation, and lack of central location for the hang-out space are some of 
> the pitfalls I've noticed happening in the past two wikimaniae. If I ran the 
> world, every Wikimania would have a large room full of abundant couches (not 
> tables to sit around, and not rows of chairs) and electrical outlets where 
> people would be encouraged to just hang out and meet new people.
> 
> -Fluffernutter
> 
> 
> On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 5:57 AM, Florence Devouard <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> https://wikimania2012.wikimedia.org/wiki/Feedback
> 
> I dropped my comments over there.
> 
> There are three things on which I would like to specifically insist upon
> 
> The first is that I see a trend in seeing Wikimania as a "conference" rather 
> than a sort of "giant meetup". I regret it.
> I was particularly sensible this year to the fact we had "factions". I could 
> see the French speaking guys hanging together here. And the German chapter 
> people hanging there. And in another corner the editing community of the 
> English Wikipedia. And over there, the Glam people. And though there were 
> naturally bridges between those groups, there was not much mixing and bonding.
> Seeing Wikimania as a conference is not really helping closing the gap. We 
> get 4 or 5 sessions in parallel. Glam group goes there in the session related 
> to Glam. Editing community goes there listening to the session related to 
> arbitration. Chapter group here goes to listen to legal risks. And so on. The 
> more sessions we have in parallel, the more chance that each group stick to 
> its habits.
> Adding side events does not necessarily help. When wandering in the street, 
> we could meet with a group of iberocoop people sticking together or a group 
> of WMF staff members heading to that restaurant. Even the wikichix meeting 
> could have been done differently. Such as giving the time to each women of 
> ONE table to present to each other rather than all of us to each other. And 
> making sure that women do not sit by their friends but with new women.
> The side meeting probably helping the most are actually visits (such as the 
> visit to the Capitol) since these are smaller groups of various origins.
> But there is this tendency to group with people you already know because it 
> is always tough to get to new people you know little about.
> In the past, I remember events that helped create more bonding. For example, 
> sleeping in one area rather than dozen. For example, breaking a wikiball 
> together. For example, hosting lightning talks in the main lobby all along 
> the conference.
> I think we need to think of Wikimania more as a networking event than it is 
> right now. And give more chance to isolated people to connect and more chance 
> to groups to break and bridge with other groups.
> I hope there can be discussions on how to achieve that (looking at how 
> networking groups do is a good direction) and that next year team will have 
> that at heart.
> 
> 
> The second is that I was actually surprised to see the organizing team put 
> itself so much "in the background".
> I did not feel very satisfied that the team was essentially listed on a slide 
> at the beginning and end of the conference and that we see a group of people 
> on stage during 1 mn at the closing. If only because I will hardly remember 
> any of the team member besides James, Aude and Danny. James as the leader. 
> Aude and Danny because I already know them. But others ? Unfortunately not. 
> Their names were plastered on an slide (since I didnot know them, it did not 
> help me to recognise their face afterwards). In a regular conference, this is 
> normal. We just thank the organizers and give them a one minute fame.
> But at Wikimania, the team should be special. It should be leader and at the 
> heart of the event. We should know who they are and at the end of the 
> conference, I feel we should feel like hugging them like mad for what they 
> did (or hate them :)). There are various ways to do that. Such as at least 
> presenting each of them at the beginning so that we have a face in front of 
> the name. Putting a big wall in the lobby with the face and name, their role, 
> and their favorite food (or whatever). Setting up a 10 mn presentation at the 
> beginning of the day. Having a contest with them on stage. A banner to sign. 
> A tower in lego to destroy. Anything.
> 
> 
> The third is.... WMF board. The Q&A is a tradition; but I feel traditions 
> ought to change sometimes. It probably made more sense to have a board Q&A 
> when we had no staff at all. Now, the staff is providing one keynote (Sue) 
> plus many talks (not far from half of Wikimania talks I think) and providing 
> plenty of input during three days. So the board Q&A is getting boring and not 
> very useful anyway. Plus, as I told Jay, the concept of having a WMF staff 
> select and ask the questions is setting up a barrier, thus increasing the 
> distance between board and wikimedians. To be fair, I find it odd that most 
> wikimedians have next to no idea of what the individual board members think 
> on a specific topic. And most answers to board does not succeed to fix that. 
> It should be clarified if the goal of this "event" is to help members 
> understand better what individual members think OR if it is to understand 
> better board strategy OR if it is to better understand certain issues. But if 
> these issues are operational in nature, the questions should go to staff, not 
> board.
> I think it is time to have another format. I wonder if it might not make 
> sense to rather select one hot topic per year and have board give their 
> opinion on that very topic in details and with individual position rather 
> than having them give short, bland answers to 10 random questions.
> 
> 
> Florence
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