Sounds like a great Page/Data/Media interplay, of interest to Wikispore if there's any need for customization. SJ
On Fri, Feb 5, 2021 at 2:37 PM Adam Sobieski <[email protected]> wrote: > A “Wikifacts” sister project is a great idea. “Wikifacts” seems distinct > from both Wikinews and Wikidata. With some schemas for facts, defining > their structure and interrelations, one could, however, utilize Wikidata as > a backend. > > > > Brainstorming, while I’m sure that those in these mailing lists are more > familiar with what’s possible with wiki templates, with a “Wikifacts” > sister project, one could envision a wiki template for explicit facts. > Perhaps such a wiki template could resemble: > > > > {{fact|User content goes here.}} > > > > or > > > > {{fact|F12345678|User content goes here.}} > > > > With such a wiki template, editors could add explicit facts to Wikinews > and Wikipedia articles. > > > > End-users could hover over explicit facts in Wikinews or Wikipedia > articles to view information (e.g. the number of informational messages, > warnings, or errors) about the facts in tooltips and could click on a fact > – or on a superscript hyperlink symbol – to navigate to the fact’s > “Wikifacts” article. > > > > The use of explicit facts in Wikinews or Wikipedia articles could, > potentially, create new “Wikifacts” articles or synchronize with existing > “Wikifacts” articles. Whenever a fact were updated or annotated via the > “Wikifacts” project website, the editors of any dependent Wikinews or > Wikipedia articles could receive emails, resembling how they can opt to > watch articles for edits. Wikinews and Wikipedia editors could receive > emails so as to be able to revisit an article if or when any facts upon > which the article depends change. > > > > A “Wikifacts” project could also serve as a fact-checking resource for a > set of end-users broader than the editors of Wikinews and Wikipedia > articles. Through an API, end-users could perform real-time fact checking > via “Wikifacts” while authoring or reviewing documents. > > > > > > Best regards, > > Adam > > > > P.S.: Thank you for the information about the Wikipragmatica proposal. > > > > > > *From: *Douglas Clark <[email protected]> > *Sent: *Thursday, February 4, 2021 6:50 PM > *To: *Wikimedia Mailing List <[email protected]> > *Subject: *Re: [Wikimedia-l] Idea of a new project: Wikifacts ? > > > > I proposed a project, WikiPragmatica > <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipragmatica>, that can support fake > news detection. The retained context of the paraphrase graph can identify > fake news patterns similar to what MIT does with their detector. > > > > On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 12:42 PM Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga < > [email protected]> wrote: > > Does Wikinews cover this aspect? > > *From:* Wikimedia-l <[email protected]> on behalf > of Chris Gates via Wikimedia-l <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Thursday, February 4, 2021 8:20 PM > *To:* Wikimedia Mailing List <[email protected]> > *Cc:* Chris Gates <[email protected]> > *Subject:* Re: [Wikimedia-l] Idea of a new project: Wikifacts ? > > > > Hello, > > > > Independent of my opinions on the validity of such a new Wikimedia > project, there is currently an experiment of similar goals (and potentially > structure) over at Twitter: > > > > > https://blog.twitter.com/en_us/topics/product/2021/introducing-birdwatch-a-community-based-approach-to-misinformation.html > > > > > > > Best, > > Verm > > > > > > On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 2:17 PM Leinonen Teemu <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Hi all, > > Has there been any discussion to start a new Wikimedia project focusing on > fact checking? > > Fact checking of course is in the core of editing Wikipedia, but I was > thinking about dedicated wiki-site that is dedicated for fact checking of > current events and news. Why this would be important? > > (1) There are many fact checking site in the English speaking world but > much less elsewhere. I am afraid that there is still greater need for fact > checking in the rest of the world. {{Citation needed}} > > (2) Our community is very well educated to do fact checking the wiki-way. > Again internationally, many of our community members are real fact > champions in their home countries and language groups. The practice of > Wikipedia could be applied to fact checking of fast moving current events > and news, too. > > (3) This could help us to get new young people to the movement, as editing > Wikipedias is not anymore so easy to start (because they are so good > already). > > (4) In many parts of the world, fact checking can also be dangerous. With > our anonymous and community driven practices and services we could protect > the fact checkers in many parts of the world. > > I am not sure what is the state of the Wikinews, but my impression is that > it is not really working. It was a good idea, but maybe wiki or wiki-way is > not the way to produce news. Also the beautiful idea of citizen journalism > has not really become reality. Maybe we could try if wiki and the wki-way > works better in fact checking. > > Peace, > > - Teemu > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > New messages to: [email protected] > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > New messages to: [email protected] > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikidata mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata > -- Samuel Klein @metasj w:user:sj +1 617 529 4266
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