On Thursday 17 May 2007 2:19 pm, howzat escreveu:
> Without going into too much detail about how Grails works (I expect there
> is plenty of info on the web about this), could you give us a bit more of
> an idea about why this "love-child" is a "cool" idea and how a Wicket user
> would benefit from working with Wicket+Grails on top of, for example,
> Hibernate & Spring?
> What is in Grails that would make Wicket "better" for web-app development?
> Is it just the integration of Groovy or is there something more for a
> Wicket user?

        I think the groovy integration is a good start, though you certainly 
don't 
need grails for that.   In fact there's a wicket-contrib-groovy project 
already underway.

        But grails seems like an interesting project and wicket is certainly 
lots of 
fun.   But it all depends on how well the integration works, and I'm not sure 
about that part of it.   It seems like GORM and some of grails other tools 
could be quite nice, though there's already the databinder stuff.   If you're 
an avid fan of groovy, then you also get the groovy configuration of spring 
rather than the xml configuration.   From the blog entry in the original 
email, it looks like they even do groovy configuration of the web.xml file.   
So a lot of it depends on how much you like grails and groovy and how well 
the integration is done.


>
> jklappenbach wrote:
> > http://graemerocher.blogspot.com/2007/05/grails-wicket-wonders-of-grails-
> >plug-in.html (SFW)
> >
> > Graeme pinged me as soon as I got online this morning to tell me about
> > his work on integrating Wicket and Groovy, a Rails implementation based
> > on the Java scripting language, Groovy.
> >
> > As you'll read, the integration took him *20 minutes*, and the result was
> > the following:
> >
> >    1. Wicket classes can be utilized as-is from wicket jars inside a
> >    Groovy environment, meaning that there's no concern of keeping a
> >    Groovy-based mirror of Wicket synchronized.
> >    2. Wicket classes can take advantage of GORM, with dynamic methods
> >    (This is very, very, cool)
> >    3. Developers can take advantage of closures, and all other nice
> >    features of Groovy
> >
> > Graeme warned me that he hadn't tested much more than a "Hello World"
> > example.  But in getting even those two simple words out, a lot had to be
> > going on under the hood.  I'd be surprised if there were issues lurking
> > beyond.
> >
> > If you haven't heard of Grails, or would like to know more, I have a
> > short post here at:
> >
> > http://tapestryofthoughts.blogspot.com/2007/05/grails-rails-gone-groovy.h
> >tml
> >
> > For more in-depth, there's the Grails site at:
> >
> > http://grails.codehaus.org/
> >
> > -jjk
> >
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