> I have never heard any first-hand accounts of Tapestry being all that great
> to work with.  I have never used it myself, but I have a couple of buddies
> that work at a company that develops management software for doctors.  They
> are in the process of re-writing one of the web apps from the ground up
> using Tapestry and all I hear is what a nightmare Tapestry is to work with.
> This is from people who I consider top notch developers.  I can't give you
> any specifics, so you can take it for what it is worth.  For me, Wicket has
> been a joy to work with from day one and it feels very uncomfortable when I
> have to work on web applications that are not written in Wicket.

I've never worked with T myself, but read a book on it and browsed
through the source code. The funny thing is that I was about to start
a proof of concept in it for the company I worked for three years ago.
But Johan just got out of a project that used it, and explained some
of the problems it had (T 3). So we took a look at JSF, didn't like
that either and decided to forget about proposing a new framework
(though we had some serious maintenance issues with our model 2 based
apps). Then Johan (again) found Wicket a couple of months later and we
agreed that this was exactly what we were looking for, even though it
was still in pre-pre-pre-alpha.

Anyway, for T's defense, my hunch is that it is still a hell of a lot
better than using model 2 frameworks. Especially now that I've been
working with Wicket for a while, there is just not a single thing I
find good or useful about them. Stripes provides a programming model
that at least fixes some of the most annoying things that exist in the
other model 2 frameworks, but still, the concept of model 2 is utterly
broken imo. And T *was* one of the first Java frameworks to try to
provide a better programming model. Gotta give HLS credit for that :)

My 2c,

Eelco

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