+1 because this actually _is_ a very important point. // Che
> -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of Ryan Sonnek > Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 3:29 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Wicket-user] Wicket arguments for big slow > companies(Was:links about wicket scalability...) > > Don't forget my *favorite* selling point of wicket... > > * NO XML!!! > > > On 9/26/06, Marc-Andre Houle <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > I never liked HTML, PHP and everything related to GUI > programming. Finding a Framework like Wicket that let me do > all my trick in Java and never have to "tweak" html and CSS > make me so happy, you can't understand. And the learning > curve was not that hard. I begin Wicket in my new Job and > after 1 week, I was at creating new Panel and delivering new stuff. > > Marc > > > > On 9/26/06, Nino Wael < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Hehe, I espcially agree to the unlearning > effect. Had a hard time getting used to the fact that wicket > controls what are selected in a component... > > > Regards Nino > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf > Of Eelco Hillenius > Sent: 26. september 2006 13:12 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Wicket-user] Wicket arguments for > big slow companies (Was:links about wicket scalability...) > > > * Very small learning curve. > > Comment: Agreed. But I still think you > need at least one more > > experienced Wicket developers for more > advanced things like > > manipulating html generated by other > components. Of course, books > > like 'Pro Wicket' help a lot but are > not for every programmer. > > I'm not even sure whether I agree :) Wicket can > be hard for people > that are not comfortable with OO programming. > If all you've learned so > far is coding PHP, JSP or RoR will be much > easier to pick up. Also, > for people who have done a bunch of projects > with web MVC frameworks > like Struts, there is what Howard Lewis Ship > (Tapestry) calls the > 'unlearning effect'. > > Wicket probably *is* very easy to learn for > programmers that are > experienced OO programmers, did a lot of Swing/ > SWT/ ... desktop > applications, or weren't doing too much UI > before. Also, I think > Wicket is the best of all web frameworks to > learn for programmers who > are now learning the trade. It's just Java and > just HTML instead of > yet another DSL, and imo there's not much that > will encourage bad > programming practices. > > > I also thought about: * Good support for > modern web pages (AJAX), while > > being compatible with older browsers. But > this one is I am afraid not > > good enough. For example FireFox 1.0 is not supported. > > This is not inherently true for the framework > though. We provide a > convenience implementation for Ajax, which can > be used with other > implementations (Dojo, scriptaculous, your own, > ...). I think a strong > feature of Wicket is that you can create you > custom components, > including any Ajax support you want for them, > without too much > trouble. > > Eelco > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------- > Take Surveys. Earn Cash. 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