In either case, I'd still like to see an article on our quick tour regarding this component. The article can then mention that the component is ready for use, but explain the composition in such a way, that it is trivial for others to persue such 'trivial' components themselves. This will pave the way for more people liking custom components.
Martijn On 8/19/06, Gwyn Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've not doing much actual Wicket coding (as till recently my main > target architechture was WL6.1/JDK1.3.1), so can't comment myself, but > do you think this is likely to be of use in the majority of > (non-trivial) Wicket apps? > > If so, I'd support Core, whereas I'd think Extensions might be better > if it's more specialised... > > /Gwyn > > On 19/08/06, Jonathan Locke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > yeah, i'm certainly someone who could have written this component too. > > only i didn't. and now i've slowly added more and more instances of the > > "one time" solution of webmarkupcontainer + simpleattributemodifier. > > the only hope here is to have a handy core component. i would have > > used that throughout. another argument in favor is that this is such a > > common problem that we'll either have (a) no implementation of a custom > > component to fix the problem and the requisite small messes everywhere > > or (b) slightly different implementations of this component in every project > > possibly each with its own quirks or bugs or naming conventions. i don't > > think either alternative is good. > > > > jon > > > > > > Eelco Hillenius wrote: > > > > > > On 8/19/06, Igor Vaynberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> -1 for core +1 for extensions > > > > > > It wouldn't make sense to me to put this in extensions. I'm +1 only > > > for core. Otherwise I wouldn't bother. > > > > > >> i think you are actually doing the newbies a disservice by providing > > >> this. > > >> these are elementary concepts they need to master. > > > > > > I understand your point but I don't agree. TagModifier would be much > > > better alternative to using WebMarkupContainer. Yes, people *could* > > > make their own. But they don't. We don't either, as examples but also > > > e.g. Teachscape is pretty dense with WebMarkupContainers with attrib > > > mods attached to it. *My* whole agreement with Jonathan is not so much > > > that it saves some code - which is the main argument of some of the > > > other convenience components - but just that we then have a component > > > to express a common cause with a name that very clearly communicates > > > it's intend. > > > > > > Re the elementary concepts.. you mean they have to learn about > > > creating custom components or how to use attribute modifiers or both? > > > I don't think having this component will have a large effect on that > > > either way. > > > > > > So... +1 for core, or -1 otherwise. > > > > > > Eelco > > -- > Download Wicket 1.2.1 now! - http://wicketframework.org > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? > Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier > Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 > _______________________________________________ > Wicket-develop mailing list > Wicket-develop@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-develop > -- Download Wicket 1.2.1 now! Embed Wicket components in your portals! -- http://wicketframework.org ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 _______________________________________________ Wicket-develop mailing list Wicket-develop@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-develop
