oops - thank you.  I missed that link in the long wording of the problem 
description.   Like the new weectl debug output too :-)

What I see is he's using the old original wview-compatible schema, so that 
certainly leans toward the db schema issue.  Again, I'd suggest temporarily 
switching to the old hard-coded Standard or Smartphone or Mobile skin (as a 
test) to see if the problem goes away.

Is there a way to instrument a test version of something under the hood in 
order to log which (if any) xtypes are being calculated due to not being 
found in the db ?   This issue seems to be hitting quite a few legacy 
users.  Would some test instrumentation perhaps help folks identify what's 
missing in their setup ?

On Saturday, June 1, 2024 at 9:02:14 AM UTC-7 Tom Keffer wrote:

> Vince, he posted the output of weectl debug, which includes the schema and 
> weewx.conf. 
>
> -tk
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 1, 2024 at 8:26 AM vince <vince...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> If you have 6 years of data you probably are using the old 
>> wview-compatible schema, so this 'sounds' like you are missing db elements 
>> referenced in your skins.  You are also running on a pi 3b (slow) and 
>> mentioned you have a 2 minute archive period (a little fast) making the pi 
>> work harder than usual.
>>
>> As a quick test, switch to the simplest available skin (Mobile or 
>> Smartphone or Standard) and see if the problem goes away.  If so it is 
>> almost certainly missing elements in your database.
>>
>> Can you post your Seasons skin.conf, weewx.conf (with no 
>> usernames/passwords in it), and your db schema ?
>>
>> On Saturday, June 1, 2024 at 7:52:50 AM UTC-7 Tom Keffer wrote:
>>
>>> Permission problems tend to be "all or nothing", so I doubt running as 
>>> 'root' (as opposed to 'weewx') has anything to do with the excessive use of 
>>> the CPU.
>>>
>>> The problem is almost surely caused by the need to calculate an 
>>> aggregate of an xtype that is not in the database (as described in this 
>>> wiki article <https://github.com/weewx/weewx/wiki/XTypes-performance>). 
>>> Because this involves many small queries to the database, using a remote 
>>> database can really exacerbate the problem. 
>>>
>>> I see that you are using the Seasons skin. Have you modified it at all? 
>>> To check, you may want to use the stock Seasons skin and compare times. 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jun 1, 2024 at 6:25 AM Bartosz Francman <bfra...@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>> For several months I have been postponing the upgrade from version 
>>>> 4.10.2-1 to version 5.02. To tell you the truth, I didn't even know that 
>>>> it 
>>>> was a jump from 4.x to 5.x and a few days ago I did an automatic upgrade 
>>>> (sudo apt update & upgrade).
>>>> When asked about saving the configuration file, I left the old version, 
>>>> as everything worked so far.
>>>> My system consists of a RaspberryPi 3B, a Eurochron EFWS 2900 station 
>>>> and a database (MariaDB 10) located on the NAS so as not to write data to 
>>>> the memory card. This system has been operating for 6 years (the first 
>>>> entries in the database are from 2018). So far I haven't had any problems. 
>>>> Everything worked as it should.
>>>> As the weather station only works via WiFi, I had to use the 
>>>> Interceptor controller to read data from the station. And unfortunately, 
>>>> only port 80 could be used. It is not possible to configure the station, 
>>>> apart from turning it on and setting access data to 3 weather services.
>>>> Now I will briefly describe the problems with the upgrade.
>>>> Port 80 cannot be used by any user other than root, so I had to change 
>>>> the way weewx runs from the weewx user to the root user. Data began to 
>>>> appear and the script did not end with the lack of access to port 80. I 
>>>> thought that it was not so bad.
>>>> However, I saw that the processes related to weewx were using 100% of 
>>>> the load of two raspberry processors. I found information on this group 
>>>> that it may be a problem with the lack of appropriate columns in the 
>>>> archive table (
>>>> https://groups.google.com/g/weewx-user/c/6rl2FIbqVp4/m/S0Ek9ZVaBwAJ) I 
>>>> did everything according to this post, plus from 
>>>> https://weewx.com/docs/5.0/utilities/weectl-database/#update-a-database 
>>>> update the database and check it. All this took about 2 hours due to the 
>>>> large amount of data I have in this database. By the way, apart from the 
>>>> high CPU load, I noticed that every half a minute there is a very large 
>>>> data read from the database. And it's related to weewx. I thought that 
>>>> rebuilding the database would reduce the CPU load and eliminate the 
>>>> frequent polling, but unfortunately it didn't help. I don't have any very 
>>>> advanced visualizations, just a basic diagram.
>>>> I left it because there is nothing else to do with this raspberry and 
>>>> two out of four processors can be fully loaded. But unfortunately, about 
>>>> two hours after starting the system, I received information from one 
>>>> weather service that I was not sending data to them. I tried to access 
>>>> this 
>>>> raspberry via ssh, but it was impossible. Connection timed out. Although 
>>>> the raspberry was running.
>>>> Only today I sat down to work on it and managed to connect to the 
>>>> raspberry. The last log entries after issuing the sudo systemctl status 
>>>> weewx command are provided below:
>>>>
>>>> pi@raspberry-pi:~ $ sudo systemctl status weewx
>>>> × weewx.service - WeeWX
>>>>      Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/weewx.service; enabled; 
>>>> preset: enabled)
>>>>      Active: failed (Result: signal) since Sat 2024-06-01 10:36:12 
>>>> CEST; 1min 2s ago
>>>>    Duration: 19h 10min 2.367s
>>>>        Docs: https://weewx.com/docs
>>>>     Process: 720 ExecStart=weewxd /etc/weewx/weewx.conf (code=killed, 
>>>> signal=KILL)
>>>>    Main PID: 720 (code=killed, signal=KILL)
>>>>         CPU: 1h 59min 21.575s
>>>>
>>>> maj 31 17:51:09 raspberry-pi weewxd[720]: INFO weewx.restx: PWSWeather: 
>>>> Published record 2024-05-31 17:48:00 CEST (1717170480)
>>>> maj 31 17:51:22 raspberry-pi weewxd[720]: INFO weewx.restx: 
>>>> Wunderground-RF: Published record 2024-05-31 17:48:47 CEST (1717170527)
>>>> maj 31 17:51:28 raspberry-pi weewxd[720]: ERROR weewx.restx: WOW: 
>>>> Failed to publish record 2024-05-31 17:48:00 CEST (1717170480): Failed 
>>>> upload after 3 tries
>>>> maj 31 17:51:28 raspberry-pi weewxd[720]: INFO weewx.restx: 
>>>> Wunderground-RF: Published record 2024-05-31 17:49:19 CEST (1717170559)
>>>> maj 31 17:51:53 raspberry-pi weewxd[720]: INFO weewx.restx: 
>>>> Wunderground-RF: Published record 2024-05-31 17:49:51 CEST (1717170591)
>>>> maj 31 17:52:13 raspberry-pi weewxd[720]: INFO weewx.restx: 
>>>> Wunderground-RF: Published record 2024-05-31 17:50:23 CEST (1717170623)
>>>> maj 31 17:52:56 raspberry-pi weewxd[720]: INFO weewx.manager: Added 
>>>> record 2024-05-31 17:50:00 CEST (1717170600) to database 'weewx_metric'
>>>> cze 01 10:36:12 raspberry-pi systemd[1]: weewx.service: Main process 
>>>> exited, code=killed, status=9/KILL
>>>> cze 01 10:36:12 raspberry-pi systemd[1]: weewx.service: Failed with 
>>>> result 'signal'.
>>>> cze 01 10:36:12 raspberry-pi systemd[1]: weewx.service: Consumed 1h 
>>>> 59min 21.575s CPU time.
>>>>
>>>> Yesterday at 17:52:56 there was the last entry to the database and 
>>>> since then "nothing" has happened. Only today at 10:36:12 weewx stopped. 
>>>> When I logged in. Yesterday I tried to log in around 18:00 and the system 
>>>> was frozen.
>>>> While checking the logs, I found this information regarding weewx 
>>>> version 5.0.2:
>>>>
>>>> WARNING weewx.engine: Previous report thread has been running 
>>>> 601.9695854187012 seconds.  Launching report thread anyway.
>>>>
>>>> INFO weewx.imagegenerator: Generated 13 images for report SeasonsReport 
>>>> in 458.25 seconds
>>>>
>>>> INFO weewx.engine: Launch of report thread aborted: existing report 
>>>> thread still running
>>>>
>>>> INFO weewx.cheetahgenerator: Generated 8 files for report SeasonsReport 
>>>> in 252.10 seconds
>>>>
>>>> Generating simple images shouldn't take more than 30 seconds of time, 
>>>> right? And not, as here, over 7 minutes in one case and 4 in the other.
>>>> In version 4.10.2, generating the same images takes:
>>>>
>>>> INFO weewx.cheetahgenerator: Generated 8 files for report SeasonsReport 
>>>> in 12.51 seconds
>>>>
>>>> I came to the conclusion that this was no longer enough for my nerves 
>>>> and I went back to version 4.10.2-1. Now the system works ok, nothing 
>>>> loads 
>>>> the processor, data is sent to weather services on an ongoing basis. The 
>>>> local page is generated every two minutes.
>>>> In version 5.02. the page was refreshed at various intervals, when I 
>>>> entered, I had data from 20 minutes ago.
>>>>
>>>> Below I am posting debug information from my settings for 5.02 and a 
>>>> few drawings illustrating the problems. Maybe someone will be able to find 
>>>> out what is wrong in my configuration... Or maybe the problem is somewhere 
>>>> else...
>>>>
>>>> BR
>>>> Bartosz
>>>>
>>>> Debug file: https://gofile.me/75BgA/0SlVLSvVO
>>>>
>>>> CPU load 5.02
>>>> [image: weewx.png]
>>>>
>>>> CPU load 4.10.2
>>>> [image: weewx_4.10.2.png]
>>>>
>>>> db load 5.0.2
>>>> [image: db.png]
>>>>
>>>> db load 4.10.2
>>>> [image: db_4.10.2.png]
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