Matthew,
    Ooops, i neglected my other response:
   I neglected that detail, I did delete the directory /var/lib/weewx and 
the database therein.  I did not change the directory /etc/weewx and I 
noticed that when I ran dnf install weewx it updated the ownership and 
group of that directory and files therein.  I was tempted to conclude from 
that change that the install would update the ownership and group of the 
directory /var/lib/weewx if I hadn't deleted it.  I was tempted to merely 
add user:group of weewx:weewx and assign them to /var/lib/weewx and the 
database but I wasn't sure if there were special requirements for that user 
and group.  
   I have rebooted since I ran the install.  Since then I get the error 
about weewx group being unknown in sets of ten once per day.


On Wednesday, January 24, 2024 at 2:40:30 PM UTC-5 Joseph Verreau wrote:

> Matthew,
>     I might have included this information:
> drwxr-xr-x. 1 weewx weewx   578 Jan 23 18:15 .
> drwxr-xr-x. 1 root  root   6320 Jan 23 12:06 ..
> drwxr-xr-x. 1 weewx weewx     8 Jan 19 18:36 bin
> drwxr-xr-x. 1 weewx weewx   160 Jan 21 12:18 examples
> drwxr-xr-x. 1 weewx weewx   178 Jan 21 12:18 import
> drwxr-xr-x. 1 weewx weewx    10 Jan 21 12:18 logrotate.d
> drwxr-xr-x. 1 weewx weewx    22 Jan 21 12:18 logwatch
> drwxr-xr-x. 1 weewx weewx    20 Jan 21 12:18 rsyslog.d
> drwxr-xr-x. 1 weewx weewx    78 Jan 21 12:18 skins
> drwxr-xr-x. 1 weewx weewx    54 Jan 21 12:18 systemd
> drwxr-xr-x. 1 weewx weewx    22 Jan 21 12:18 udev
> -rw-r--r--. 1 weewx weewx 19474 Jan 23 18:15 weewx.conf
> -rw-r--r--. 1 weewx weewx 23138 Jan 30  2023 weewx.conf-4.10.1
> -rw-r--r--. 1 weewx weewx 23146 Jan 19 18:36 weewx.conf-4.10.2-5.0.0
> -rw-r--r--. 1 weewx weewx 23142 Jun  8  2021 weewx.conf-4.5.1
> -rw-r--r--. 1 weewx weewx 23137 Feb  6  2022 weewx.conf-4.6.0
> -rw-r--r--. 1 weewx weewx 23137 Feb 11  2022 weewx.conf-4.6.1
> -rw-r--r--. 1 weewx weewx 23137 Feb 11  2022 weewx.conf-4.6.2
> -rw-r--r--. 1 weewx weewx 23137 Mar  5  2022 weewx.conf-4.7.0
> -rw-r--r--. 1 weewx weewx 23137 Apr 24  2022 weewx.conf-4.8.0
> -rw-r--r--. 1 weewx weewx 23220 Oct 25  2022 weewx.conf-4.9.1
> -rw-r--r--. 1 weewx weewx 19474 Jan 14 12:01 weewx.conf-5.0.0
> -rw-r--r--. 1 weewx weewx 23138 Feb 23  2023 weewx.conf.prev
> -rw-r--r--. 1 weewx weewx 19474 Jan 14 12:01 weewx.conf.rpmnew
> -rw-r--r--. 1 weewx weewx 23138 Feb 23  2023 weewx.conf.rpmsave
>
> joev.mi
> _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
>
> On Wednesday, January 24, 2024 at 2:38:38 PM UTC-5 Joseph Verreau wrote:
>
>> Matthew,
>>    answers to above:
>> 1) located in /usr/lib/systemd/system I have these two:
>>  -rw-r--r--. 1 root root  368 Jan 21 12:18  weewx.service
>> -rw-r--r--. 1 root root  876 Jan 21 12:18  weewx@.service
>>
>> 2) located in xps13-9305:/etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/ I 
>> have the following but no weewx files in /etc/init.d or /etc/sysetmd/system
>> lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root   37 Jan 21 12:18 weewx.service -> 
>> /usr/lib/systemd/system/weewx.service
>>
>> 3) xps13-9305:/etc/init.d# grep weewx /etc/passwd
>> weewx:x:971:960::/home/weewx:/sbin/nologin
>>
>> 4) 60-weewx.rules attached
>>
>> and thank you for your response.
>>
>> joev.mi
>> _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
>>
>> On Wednesday, January 24, 2024 at 7:20:47 AM UTC-5 matthew wall wrote:
>>
>>> On Tuesday, January 23, 2024 at 10:49:43 PM UTC-5 joev...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>  My upgrade from 4.10 to 5.0 on my laptop, i.e. not connected to a real 
>>> weather station thus running with the simulator device, has actually gone 
>>> very nicely but for one puzzling report. I thought installing on my laptop 
>>> would better prepare me for installing on my desktop that is actually 
>>> connected to my weather station.
>>>
>>> Jan 23 12:06:12 xps13-9305 systemd-udevd[632]: 
>>> /usr/lib/udev/rules.d/60-weewx.rules:4 Unknown group '{weewx}', ignoring.
>>>
>>>
>>> 1) what is User and Group in /usr/lib/systemd/system/weewx.service?
>>>
>>> 2) do any of these files exist on your system:
>>> /etc/systemd/system/weewx.service
>>> /etc/init.d/weewx
>>> /etc/init.d/weewx-multi
>>>  
>>> 3) what do you see when you do this: 
>>> grep weewx /etc/passwd
>>>
>>> 4) please post the contents of the file
>>> /usr/lib/udev/rules.d/60-weewx.rules
>>>
>>> installation history:
>>>
>>> initially installed on this server running fedora in 2014 via the 
>>> setup.py method. In 2020 I switched to the dnf repo method. When I first 
>>> ran this upgrade to ver 5.0 using dnf upgrade I noticed that I ended up 
>>> with the application using root:root for user:group assignments of 
>>> directories and files. Reading the installation guide some more I noted 
>>> there was a transition to weewx:weewx for those assignments. So I erased 
>>> the application then ran dnf install weewx following along the instructions 
>>> for fedora versions 34+. That seemed to correct the issue of ownership by 
>>> creating the missing user and group. 
>>>
>>> I don’t observe anything else out of place. My install starts against 
>>> the simulator device, and enters the main loop where it updates the 
>>> database as I would expect. 
>>>
>>> Question: does the error reported above as in the journal imply a 
>>> mis-configuration? Why is the group weewx identified as unknown?
>>>
>>>
>>> when you upgrade from v4 to v5 using dnf, weewxd should run as 
>>> root:root.  this is because the installer will try to respect your previous 
>>> installation, and continue to run with the same user and permissions as the 
>>> previous install.
>>>
>>> when you do a new install of v5 using dnf, weewxd should run as 
>>> weewx:weewx.
>>>
>>> note that when you 'erase' an installation with dnf, the database, 
>>> located in /var/lib/weewx, will not be deleted.  so if you were to run the 
>>> v5 installer at this point, even though it is technically a new install, 
>>> because of the /var/lib/weewx with root:root ownership, the 'new' install 
>>> will run as root:root.
>>>
>>> if you saw that v5 was running as root:root, that means you must have 
>>> deleted /var/lib/weewx, or changed its permissions.  could you verify this?
>>>
>>> m
>>>
>>

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