Yeah, The first time I got the altitude I used a garmin gps and left it running to average the altitude For a while.
Guess I'm just going to learn to deal with it. On Sunday, January 10, 2021 at 6:24:56 PM UTC-8 [email protected] wrote: > And this document explains why GPS altitude sucks (to be polite!): > > > http://www.montereysar.org/SARMembersDocs/UsingaGarminGPSwithPaperLandMaps_Manual.pdf > > Regards, > > Garry Lockyer > C: +1.250.689.0686 <(250)%20689-0686> > E: [email protected] > > > On Jan 10, 2021, at 18:05, Brent Dowell <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Thanks again! > > On Sunday, January 10, 2021 at 6:02:00 PM UTC-8 [email protected] wrote: > >> The note *Derived variables >> <https://www.davisinstruments.com/product_documents/weather/app_notes/AN_28-derived-weather-variables.pdf>* >> from >> Davis has a pretty good discussion of this. >> >> On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 5:38 PM Brent Dowell <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Correct Altitude is entered. >>> >>> I'm getting an average error of 3.5 millibars. >>> >>> My altitude is pretty close to the local airport, and I used a fairly >>> calm day to adjust my barometer to match that. Our altitude is also >>> relatively close, i.e. the airport is 4403ft and I'm at 4410. Althought >>> that 4410 could be off, I had used that for my altitude for years. >>> >>> Took another reading via gps today and have adjusted that to 4293, which >>> seems like it could be a significant differences. >>> >>> Thanks so much for your help in getting me to understand it. I've >>> managed to learn to ignore the wind errors, as I live on a hillside and >>> don't see anyway my wind data will ever match. if I need to do that for >>> barometer, I'll work on it. lol. >>> >>> Would just like to figure out what I'm doing wrong. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> 1. That you have a Vantage console; >>> Vantage Vue Console >>> 2. That you are using regular LOOP packets, not the newer LOOP2 packets; >>> loop_request = 1 >>> 3. That you are using hardware record generation. >>> prefer_hardware >>> >>> From the wee_device command. >>> >>> BAROMETER CALIBRATION DATA: >>> Current barometer reading: 30.222 inHg >>> Altitude: 4293 feet >>> Dew point: 24 F >>> Virtual temperature: 32 F >>> Humidity correction factor: 1.1 >>> Correction ratio: 1.175 >>> Correction constant: +0.000 inHg >>> Gain: 0.000 >>> Offset: -16.000 >>> >>> >>> On Sunday, January 10, 2021 at 5:01:53 PM UTC-8 [email protected] wrote: >>> >>>> I'm assuming: >>>> >>>> 1. That you have a Vantage console; >>>> 2. That you are using regular LOOP packets, not the newer LOOP2 packets; >>>> 3. That you are using hardware record generation. >>>> >>>> If all this is true, then what's happening is that WeeWX is downloading >>>> altitude and temperature corrected barometric data (what pilots call QFF) >>>> from the console. However, CWOP wants pressure corrected only for altitude >>>> (not temperature; pilots call this QNH). So, WeeWX uses an algorithm to >>>> calculate that. This is then what is uploaded. >>>> >>>> First thing is to make sure you have the correct altitude entered in >>>> your console. You will also want to know whether the console is applying >>>> any barometric corrections. Both can be checked using the utility >>>> wee_device, >>>> with the --info <http://www.weewx.com/docs/hardware.htm#vantage_info> >>>> command. >>>> >>>> *wee_device --info* >>>> >>>> This will tell you what altitude your console thinks it's at, as well >>>> as any barometric calibration data. >>>> >>>> -tk >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 4:24 PM Brent Dowell <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I've been chasing my tail a bit trying to get my data that I upload to >>>>> CWOP to pass the madis checks, which, from what I've read is a bit >>>>> problematic. >>>>> >>>>> My question though is what should I have my console set as far as >>>>> altitude and barometer reduction. Right now I have it set for my correct >>>>> altitude and am using the altimeter setting. My readings are consistently >>>>> 'low' compared to the madis QC Check. >>>>> >>>>> It looks like to me that the values being uploaded are in fact low >>>>> (raw aprs data) and do not match whats on my console. So it appears that >>>>> weewx must be doing some altimeter calculation on my data and is sending >>>>> that on to cwop? 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