I hope some other WOers will discover your other great videos on YouTube 

François 

> Le 23 sept. 2025 à 13:33, Hugi Thordarson via Webobjects-dev 
> <webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com> a écrit :
> 
> Glad to hear it worked :). Almost didn't publish that video when I saw the 
> test app opening up and remembered how it looked. Positively horrifying. And 
> doesn't really demonstrate a lot since, as I said, this was mostly a support 
> project I used to try out stuff during development.
> 
> I should have some time to give it a little love later this week.
> 
> Cheers,
> - hugi
> 
> 
> 
>> On 23 Sep 2025, at 11:27, Francois BIENTZ via Webobjects-dev 
>> <webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Hugi
>> 
>> Ah yes importing just ng-testapp in Eclipse works fine , thank you.
>> And thank you too for this new video.
>> 
>> François
>> 
>>>> Le 23 sept. 2025 à 10:22, Hugi Thordarson via Webobjects-dev 
>>>> <webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com> a écrit :
>>> Hi Francois,
>>> 
>>> ng-testapp is not a module/part of the ng-objects project itself so needs 
>>> to be explicitly imported.
>>> 
>>> Video for reference, if it helps:
>>> 
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vypLdi_nfE
>>> 
>>> - hugi
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 23 Sep 2025, at 07:15, Francois BIENTZ via Webobjects-dev 
>>>> <webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello
>>>> 
>>>> I did not tell you …
>>>> I did import the ng projects in Eclipse
>>>> The ng-testapp is imported in a  ng-object-reactor
>>>> I was not able to run it in eclipse
>>>> François
>>>> 
>>>>> Le 22 sept. 2025 à 23:33, Hugi Thordarson via Webobjects-dev 
>>>>> <webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com> a écrit :
>>>>> Excellent to hear :).
>>>>> You can import the project into Eclipse ("import maven project") and work 
>>>>> on it there like pretty much like any WO application. Just right click 
>>>>> the Application class and select Debug As -> Java Application and start 
>>>>> adding components, actions, routes etc. The public facing APIs are very 
>>>>> similar to WO's since one of it's primary design goals is for my WO 
>>>>> projects to be easily migratable to it when that time arrives (although I 
>>>>> really, really want to change some core APIs, but still considering the 
>>>>> pros and cons. Long story).
>>>>> It's possible to "fool" WOLips into thinking it's a WO project and get 
>>>>> some of the component editor's features (autocomplete, switching between 
>>>>> component/class etc.). But doing so involves a few steps, so I think I'll 
>>>>> make a separate post to detail how that's done.
>>>>> Now, I'd like to warn you that ng is very, very much "work in progress". 
>>>>> There's no documentation, the APIs will change, the design will change, 
>>>>> everything may change. I really need to do a little writeup on the status 
>>>>> of each part of the framework to clarify the development state of each of 
>>>>> the framework's components. I'm planning on stabilizing a couple of 
>>>>> things and doing a "prerelease" to maven central in the next couple of 
>>>>> months and when that happens there will at least be some documentation as 
>>>>> well.
>>>>> But yeah. I wouldn't recommend doing any production work on ng as is, 
>>>>> unless you're really brave. I do run a few sites on it myself — but I'm 
>>>>> cheating since I've got all of them in the same workspace as ng, allowing 
>>>>> me to refactor all the projects using ng when I make a change.
>>>>> But I *do* love knowing someone is looking at it and playing with it, I'm 
>>>>> very open to suggestions on design and, well, everything.
>>>>> To everyone else: I hope you're ok with ng being discussed here? I know 
>>>>> it's not exactly WO, but it's quite related, I promise :)
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> - hugi
>>>>>> On 22 Sep 2025, at 20:52, Francois BIENTZ via Webobjects-dev 
>>>>>> <webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Thank you so much Hugi
>>>>>> ng-testapp works fine using maven on the command line.
>>>>>> What kind of IDE do you use to run it ?
>>>>>> François
>>>>>>>> Le 22 sept. 2025 à 18:30, Hugi Thordarson via Webobjects-dev 
>>>>>>>> <webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com> a écrit :
>>>>>>> Francois, this is not about you not being lucky — it's about me 
>>>>>>> absolutely sucking at making sure the stuff I've got under development 
>>>>>>> is usable and accessible for newcomers. Sorry about that. It hasn't 
>>>>>>> been high on the priority list since not many people have been looking 
>>>>>>> at this, but you've given me a fresh dose of motivation to improve the 
>>>>>>> situation :).
>>>>>>> I've updated the build of ng-testapp and updated the instructions. Now 
>>>>>>> works fine on my side, hope it will for you too.
>>>>>>> However; the provided testapp is actually terrible. It hasn't been 
>>>>>>> updated in years and is pretty much just some scaffolding I used for 
>>>>>>> testing while figuring out the basics of templating, action invocations 
>>>>>>> etc. I think some of it's templates are even hand-coded element 
>>>>>>> templates, since before I started work on the template parser (oof. How 
>>>>>>> little I actually knew about what the heck I was beginning back then).
>>>>>>> I'll spend some time this week and make the test application a little 
>>>>>>> more useful and attractive. Thanks for taking a look!
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> - hugi
>>>>>>>> On 22 Sep 2025, at 16:06, Francois BIENTZ via Webobjects-dev 
>>>>>>>> <webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Thank you Hugi about Whoa ! Community
>>>>>>>> I’m not lucky testing new "things" :-(
>>>>>>>> I wanted to try ng-objects , followed the readme
>>>>>>>> mvn install
>>>>>>>> cd ng-testapp
>>>>>>>> mvn package
>>>>>>>> ./target/ng-testapp-1.0.0-SNAPSHOT.woa/ng-testapp
>>>>>>>> => No such directory : testapp-1.0.0-SNAPSHOT.woa
>>>>>>>> François
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