If you are building with ant, you still need a next root. The new woinstall is 
run by maven, but it also installs a next root in the maven repository in case 
you still have ant builds too. 

mvn io.github.wocommunity:woinstall-maven-plugin:woinstall

It will print out the next root path when it completes, which will be 
~/.m2/repository/com/webobjects/.next_roots/5.4.3/

Then you would point wolips to that next root the normal way. I want to modify 
wolips to do this and simplify that setup process one of these days :) But it 
is still a manual setup for now.

On January 11, 2025 3:16:52 AM GMT+09:00, Ricardo Parada <rpar...@mac.com> 
wrote:
>Oh I think I see what you are saying about the dynamic package links expiring 
>after 30 mins. 
>
>I tried clicking on them to download the package and I get some XML response 
>and something about being expired. 
>
>
>But I’m glad I was able to install the traditional way. 
>
>
>Another question, I have WebObjects installed in my computer using the 
>WOInstall.jar. 
>
>
>Is that still a required step? I think I read somewhere about WebObjects being 
>installed automatically but perhaps that is for developers using maven?
>
>
>Thanks
>
>
>
>Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>On Jan 10, 2025, at 12:14 PM, Ricardo Parada <rpar...@mac.com> wrote:
>
>
>Hi Ramsey,
>
>As to my original problems installing WOLips the traditional way I was able to 
>obtain a certificate file here at work and then I modified eclipse.ini to use 
>it. 
>
>
>After that I was able to install WOLips 5 the traditional way. 
>
>
>I will for sure give those packages 📦 a try. They will save us some steps in 
>installing all those plug ins. 
>
>
>Thanks for your great work. 
>
>
>Ricardo Parada
>
>
>
>Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>On Jan 9, 2025, at 6:36 PM, Ramsey Gurley <ramseygur...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> 
>Hi Ricardo,
>
>Good to hear from you :) There's not a dist.zip anymore because of changes to 
>the build and the p2 repository layout. However, if you are logged into 
>github, you can download a full 'Eclipse for Committers' installation 
>pre-installed with Java 23, WOLips5, Spotbugs plugin, and the Enhanced Class 
>Decompiler plugin under "packages" on the right sidebar. I just pushed the 
>latest fix for the HTML editor into a 5.0.1 release and the direct link to the 
>packages is
>
>https://github.com/wocommunity/wolips/packages/2358858
>
>There's a different package for seven different native platforms, so for 
>example if you're on an ARM Macbook, you would download the 
>wolips.product-5.0.1-macosx.cocoa.aarch64.tgz. It should have everything you 
>need for WOLips/WebObjects development. I don't know if anyone is actually 
>using these yet, you may be the beta tester. It's very new :) 
>
>I still haven't figured out how to set up the default workspace layouts for 
>this, so when you first launch it in a new workspace, it starts you in the 
>"resources" perspective. That's not the best experience, but I haven't had 
>time to figure out how to make it launch in the WOLips perspective. Also, we 
>can produce our own WOLips icon, welcome page, and splash screen for it, if 
>anyone is feeling artistic ;)
>
>I hope we can someday copy these packages somewhere that doesn't require a 
>github authentication to download them. That's probably something the 
>WOCommunity maven server can handle, but each release is about 3GBs, so I want 
>to verify with someone that this is okay before I start sending them over 
>there. We probably would only need to do a quarterly release that trails the 
>latest Eclipse releases. I had hoped to make a direct download link to each of 
>the seven different packages on the ReadMe.md for the repo, but even the links 
>are dynamic. They stop working after about 30mins or so :-/ The github 
>packages experience is unfortunately poor.
>
>Ramsey
>
>
>On 1/10/25 4:59 AM, Ricardo Parada wrote:
>
> I installed Java 21 and I got past the errors message when building. I no 
> longer get that. 
>
>The error I get now has to do with network restrictions here at work and I’ll 
>see if I can get help finding that or have them relax the restriction so that 
>I can at least install it the traditional way?
>
>
>Thanks
>
>
>
>Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>On Jan 9, 2025, at 2:43 PM, Ricardo Parada <rpar...@mac.com> 
><mailto:rpar...@mac.com> wrote:
>
> 
> Or is it possible to download the latest dist.zip from somewhere to unzip it 
> and do a local install? 
>
>That is normally how I install the older version. I go to the Jenkins latest 
>build and download the dist.zip, then unzip and do the local install. 
>
>
>Thanks
>
>Ricardo Parada
>
>
>
>Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>On Jan 9, 2025, at 2:34 PM, Ricardo Parada <rpar...@mac.com> 
><mailto:rpar...@mac.com> wrote:
>
> 
>Hi Ramsey,
>
>Happy new year and thank you for your work on WOLips5.
>
>On my work computer I cannot install WOLips5 using the traditional method 
>doing Help > Install New Software… > Add and entering the WOLips update URL 
>https://wocommunity.github.io/wolips/repository/
>
>
>So I’m trying to build it and then do a local instance. 
>
>
>I was able to clone the wolips.git: 
>
>$ git clone https://github.com/wocommunity/wolips.git
>
>But then step 2 failed:
>
>$ cd wolips && mvn clean package
>
>
>[INFO] Scanning for projects...
>
>[INFO] Tycho Version: 4.0.10 (34d2d6b5223a28191d552396774c226b8f40d522)
>
>[INFO] Tycho Mode: project
>
>[INFO] Tycho Builder: maven
>
>[INFO] Build Threads: 1
>
>[INFO]------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>[INFO] Reactor Build Order:
>
>[INFO] 
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>[INFO] wolips-project [pom]
>
>[INFO] org.objectstyle.wolips.baseforplugins [eclipse-plugin]
>
>[INFO] org.objectstyle.wolips.locate [eclipse-plugin]
>
>[INFO] org.objectstyle.wolips.woproject [eclipse-plugin]
>
>[INFO] org.objectstyle.wolips.baseforuiplugins [eclipse-plugin]
>
>[INFO] org.objectstyle.wolips.preferences [eclipse-plugin]
>
>[INFO] org.objectstyle.wolips.variables [eclipse-plugin]
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>[INFO] org.objectstyle.wolips [eclipse-plugin]
>
>[INFO] org.objectstyle.wolips.workbenchutilities [eclipse-plugin]
>
>[INFO] org.objectstyle.wolips.refactoring [eclipse-plugin]
>
>[INFO] org.objectstyle.wolips.jdt [eclipse-plugin]
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>[INFO] org.objectstyle.wolips.bindings [eclipse-plugin]
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>[INFO] org.objectstyle.wolips.ant [eclipse-plugin]
>
>[INFO] org.objectstyle.wolips.thirdparty.commonscollections [eclipse-plugin]
>
>[INFO] org.objectstyle.wolips.thirdparty.log4j [eclipse-plugin]
>
>[INFO] org.objectstyle.wolips.thirdparty.velocity [eclipse-plugin]
>
>[INFO] org.objectstyle.wolips.templateengine [eclipse-plugin]
>
>[INFO] org.objectstyle.wolips.builder [eclipse-plugin]
>
>[INFO] org.objectstyle.wolips.targetbuilder [eclipse-plugin]
>
>[INFO] org.objectstyle.wolips.ui [eclipse-plugin]
>
>[INFO] org.objectstyle.wolips.editors [eclipse-plugin]
>
>[INFO] org.objectstyle.wolips.apieditor [eclipse-plugin]
>
>[INFO] org.objectstyle.wolips.components [eclipse-plugin]
>
>[INFO] org.objectstyle.wolips.eomodeler.core [eclipse-plugin]
>
>[INFO] org.objectstyle.wolips.wodclipse.core [eclipse-plugin]
>
>[INFO] org.objectstyle.wolips.tkhtmleditor [eclipse-plugin]
>
>[INFO] org.objectstyle.wolips.htmlpreview [eclipse-plugin]
>
>[INFO] org.objectstyle.wolips.wooeditor [eclipse-plugin]
>
>[INFO] org.objectstyle.wolips.wodclipse [eclipse-plugin]
>
>[INFO] org.objectstyle.wolips.componenteditor [eclipse-plugin]
>
>[INFO] org.objectstyle.wolips.documentation [eclipse-plugin]
>
>[INFO] org.objectstyle.wolips.pbserver [eclipse-plugin]
>
>[INFO] org.objectstyle.wolips.womodeler [eclipse-plugin]
>
>[INFO] org.objectstyle.wolips.eogenerator.core [eclipse-plugin]
>
>[INFO] org.objectstyle.wolips.launching [eclipse-plugin]
>
>[INFO] org.objectstyle.wolips.eomodeler [eclipse-plugin]
>
>[INFO] org.objectstyle.wolips.eomodeler.eclipse [eclipse-plugin]
>
>[INFO] org.objectstyle.wolips.team [eclipse-plugin]
>
>[INFO] org.objectstyle.wolips.eogenerator.ui [eclipse-plugin]
>
>[INFO] org.objectstyle.wolips.eogenerator.jdt [eclipse-plugin]
>
>[INFO] org.objectstyle.wolips.wizards [eclipse-plugin]
>
>[INFO] org.objectstyle.wolips.ruleeditor [eclipse-plugin]
>
>[INFO] org.objectstyle.wolips.woproject.ant [eclipse-plugin]
>
>[INFO] org.objectstyle.wolips.deployment.ui [eclipse-plugin]
>
>[INFO] org.objectstyle.wolips.debug [eclipse-plugin]
>
>[INFO] org.objectstyle.wolips.feature [eclipse-feature]
>
>[INFO] wolips.p2 [eclipse-repository]
>
>[INFO] wolips.targetplatform [eclipse-target-definition]
>
>[INFO] org.objectstyle.wolips.eomodeler.doc [eclipse-plugin]
>
>[INFO] org.objectstyle.wolips.eomodeler.factories [eclipse-plugin]
>
>[INFO] 
>
>[INFO] --------------< org.objectstyle.woproject:wolips-project >--------------
>
>[INFO] Building wolips-project 5.0.1-SNAPSHOT [1/50]
>
>[INFO] from pom.xml
>
>[INFO]--------------------------------[ pom ]---------------------------------
>
>[INFO] 
>
>[INFO] --- clean:3.2.0:clean(default-clean) @ wolips-project ---
>
>[INFO] 
>
>[INFO] --- tycho-source:4.0.10:plugin-source (plugin-source) @ wolips-project 
>---
>
>[INFO] 
>
>[INFO] --- tycho-source:4.0.10:feature-source(feature-source) @ wolips-project 
>---
>
>[INFO] 
>
>[INFO] --- tycho-p2-plugin:4.0.10:p2-metadata (attach-p2-metadata) @ 
>wolips-project ---
>
>[INFO] 
>
>[INFO] --< org.objectstyle.woproject:org.objectstyle.wolips.baseforplugins >---
>
>[INFO] Building org.objectstyle.wolips.baseforplugins 5.0.1-SNAPSHOT [2/50]
>
>[INFO] from wolips/plugins/org.objectstyle.wolips.baseforplugins/pom.xml
>
>[INFO] ---------------------------[ eclipse-plugin ]---------------------------
>
>[INFO]------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>[INFO] Reactor Summary for wolips-project 5.0.1-SNAPSHOT:
>
>[INFO] 
>
>[INFO] wolips-project .....................................SUCCESS [ 0.031 s]
>
>[INFO] org.objectstyle.wolips.baseforplugins .............. FAILURE [ 0.019 s]
>
>[INFO] org.objectstyle.wolips.locate ...................... SKIPPED
>
>[INFO] org.objectstyle.wolips.woproject ................... SKIPPED
>
>[INFO] org.objectstyle.wolips.baseforuiplugins ............ SKIPPED
>
>[INFO] org.objectstyle.wolips.preferences ................. SKIPPED
>
>[INFO] org.objectstyle.wolips.variables ................... SKIPPED
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>[INFO] org.objectstyle.wolips ............................. SKIPPED
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>[INFO] org.objectstyle.wolips.workbenchutilities .......... SKIPPED
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>[INFO] org.objectstyle.wolips.refactoring ................. SKIPPED
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>[INFO] org.objectstyle.wolips.jdt ......................... SKIPPED
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>[INFO] org.objectstyle.wolips.bindings .................... SKIPPED
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>[INFO] org.objectstyle.wolips.ant ......................... SKIPPED
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>[INFO] org.objectstyle.wolips.thirdparty.commonscollections SKIPPED
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>[INFO] org.objectstyle.wolips.thirdparty.log4j ............ SKIPPED
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>[INFO] org.objectstyle.wolips.thirdparty.velocity ......... SKIPPED
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>[INFO] org.objectstyle.wolips.templateengine .............. SKIPPED
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>[INFO] org.objectstyle.wolips.builder ..................... SKIPPED
>
>[INFO] org.objectstyle.wolips.targetbuilder ............... SKIPPED
>
>[INFO] org.objectstyle.wolips.ui .......................... SKIPPED
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>[INFO] org.objectstyle.wolips.editors ..................... SKIPPED
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>[INFO] org.objectstyle.wolips.apieditor ................... SKIPPED
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>[INFO] org.objectstyle.wolips.components .................. SKIPPED
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>[INFO] org.objectstyle.wolips.eomodeler.core .............. SKIPPED
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>[INFO] org.objectstyle.wolips.wodclipse.core .............. SKIPPED
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>[INFO] org.objectstyle.wolips.tkhtmleditor ................ SKIPPED
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>[INFO] org.objectstyle.wolips.htmlpreview ................. SKIPPED
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>[INFO] org.objectstyle.wolips.wooeditor ................... SKIPPED
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>[INFO] org.objectstyle.wolips.wodclipse ................... SKIPPED
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>[INFO] org.objectstyle.wolips.componenteditor ............. SKIPPED
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>[INFO] org.objectstyle.wolips.documentation ............... SKIPPED
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>[INFO] org.objectstyle.wolips.pbserver .................... SKIPPED
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>[INFO] org.objectstyle.wolips.womodeler ................... SKIPPED
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>[INFO] org.objectstyle.wolips.eogenerator.core ............ SKIPPED
>
>[INFO] org.objectstyle.wolips.launching ................... SKIPPED
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>[INFO] org.objectstyle.wolips.eomodeler ................... SKIPPED
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>[INFO] org.objectstyle.wolips.eomodeler.eclipse ........... SKIPPED
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>[INFO] org.objectstyle.wolips.team ........................ SKIPPED
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>[INFO] org.objectstyle.wolips.eogenerator.ui .............. SKIPPED
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>[INFO] org.objectstyle.wolips.eogenerator.jdt ............. SKIPPED
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>[INFO] org.objectstyle.wolips.wizards ..................... SKIPPED
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>[INFO] org.objectstyle.wolips.ruleeditor .................. SKIPPED
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>[INFO] org.objectstyle.wolips.woproject.ant ............... SKIPPED
>
>[INFO] org.objectstyle.wolips.deployment.ui ............... SKIPPED
>
>[INFO] org.objectstyle.wolips.debug ....................... SKIPPED
>
>[INFO] org.objectstyle.wolips.feature ..................... SKIPPED
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>[INFO] wolips.p2 .......................................... SKIPPED
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>[INFO] wolips.targetplatform ..............................SKIPPED
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>[INFO] org.objectstyle.wolips.eomodeler.doc ............... SKIPPED
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>[INFO] org.objectstyle.wolips.eomodeler.factories ......... SKIPPED
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>[INFO]------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>[INFO] BUILD FAILURE
>
>[INFO]------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>[INFO] Total time: 3.276 s
>
>[INFO] Finished at: 2025-01-09T14:31:24-05:00
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>[INFO]------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>[ERROR] Unknown OSGi execution environment: 'JavaSE-21'
>
>[ERROR] 
>
>[ERROR] To see the full stack trace of the errors, re-run Maven with the-e 
>switch.
>
>[ERROR] Re-run Maven using the -Xswitch to enable full debug logging.
>
>
>Any ideas?
>
>Thank you,
>
>Ricardo Parada
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