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> On 13 Feb 2020, at 12:29, Andrus Adamchik <and...@objectstyle.org> wrote: > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pointy-haired_Boss > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pointy-haired_Boss> > >> On Feb 13, 2020, at 3:28 PM, Gino Pacitti via Webobjects-dev >> <webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com <mailto:webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>> >> wrote: >> >> Thank Andrus for you take… really good write up. >> >> And what is PHBs? >> >> Gibi >> >>> On 13 Feb 2020, at 12:25, Andrus Adamchik <and...@objectstyle.org >>> <mailto:and...@objectstyle.org>> wrote: >>> >>> My opinionated take is the following: >>> >>> * The "official" JavaEE is dead and is now a pure volunteer effort under >>> https://jakarta.ee/ <https://jakarta.ee/> . The "appserver" concept has >>> almost disappeared and morphed to something different. All the past market >>> leaders have moved on to more lightweight solutions, though some still >>> cling to .war deployment. >>> >>> * SpringBoot is the market leader in the Java world. If you are looking to >>> build a marketable Java developer resume, learn SpringBoot. >>> >>> * If you need to write apps for your org or your customers, and are not >>> constrained by the PHBs opinion, use Bootique. It is a better platform in >>> the modern appserver-free world. Bootique is "commercially-viable" in a >>> sense that there are hundreds of apps that run in prod for a number of >>> years. But it is still an open source effort supported by community and a >>> mid-sized company (ObjectStyle), so it is sometimes an uphill battle in >>> organizations that are looking to conform to the lowest common denominator. >>> >>> So you decide :) >>> >>> Andrus >>> >>> >>>> On Feb 13, 2020, at 3:06 PM, Gino Pacitti via Webobjects-dev >>>> <webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com <mailto:webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Thanks for that… it looks really interesting… >>>> >>>> Is it a commercially viable alternative to some of the others like JBoss, >>>> Tomcat, Websphere etc.. >>>> >>>> I would like to add another feather to my bow but not really sure which >>>> architecture to devote time to so that I can work on bigger projects in a >>>> team... >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On 13 Feb 2020, at 11:16, Andrus Adamchik <and...@objectstyle.org >>>>> <mailto:and...@objectstyle.org>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> We are using Bootique: https://bootique.io/ <https://bootique.io/> >>>>> >>>>> Just like SpringBoot, its idea is that it is not an "appserver". It gives >>>>> you a plain Java app with your own "main" method, and a way to assemble >>>>> various components together (and also modularity, dependency injection, >>>>> consistent configuration and a large collection of ready-to-use modules). >>>>> The app can serve web requests, run jobs or do whatever. >>>>> >>>>> Unlike SpringBoot, Bootique is much smaller, starts much faster, and >>>>> doesn't feel like magic. Also all the apps you write are automatically >>>>> equipped with POSIX CLI. >>>>> >>>>> Andrus >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Feb 11, 2020, at 4:29 PM, Paul Yu via Webobjects-dev >>>>>> <webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com <mailto:webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Spring and it’s ecosystem seems to be pretty powerful. >>>>>> >>>>>> Paul >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>> Please excuse iOS autocomplete >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Feb 11, 2020, at 8:06 AM, Gino Pacitti via Webobjects-dev >>>>>>> <webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com >>>>>>> <mailto:webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> hey if any one was to use a different app server configuration other >>>>>>> than WO what would you choose and why? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What are most companies requesting these days in a Java system? >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >>>> Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com >>>> <mailto:Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>) >>>> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >>>> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/andrus%40objectstyle.org >>>> >>>> <https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/andrus%40objectstyle.org> >>>> >>>> This email sent to and...@objectstyle.org <mailto:and...@objectstyle.org> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >> Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com >> <mailto:Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>) >> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/andrus%40objectstyle.org >> >> <https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/andrus%40objectstyle.org> >> >> This email sent to and...@objectstyle.org >
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