Greetings all,
What Paul has said here makes a great deal of sense.  +1.

V/R,

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[mailto:webobjects-dev-bounces+daniel.beatty=navy....@lists.apple.com] On 
Behalf Of Paul Yu
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 7:17
To: John Huss
Cc: WebObjects Development
Subject: Re: Help on incorporating the WOCommunity Association

May be this is a two step process.

Operationally, Pascal needs a non-profit right now for WOWODC 2012, etc.  and 
having a non-profit without a bigger licensing issues to deal with would be 
good.

Once the organization is up, then it can work to move the code to apache...

Paul

On Sep 20, 2011, at 10:14 AM, John Huss wrote:


        +1 for Apache.
        
        
        On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 8:24 AM, Andrus Adamchik 
<and...@objectstyle.org> wrote:
        

                I was trying to find a statement on the association objectives.
                
                Here is a crazy idea - maybe instead of starting a new 
non-profit, the community should consider taking the open source parts of the 
WO code and join the Apache Software Foundation. The benefits are the following:
                
                * WOCommunity will become a top level project (TLP) under one 
of the most recognized open source brands, exposing it to many more eyes 
compared to now.
                * Apache has advanced and time-proven governing process that 
already works. No legal expense or effort is required.
                * Apache is the best place out there for community building, 
code legal clearance and preservation of software projects under the ASL 2.0.
                * Somebody will watch your infrastructure for you.
                * You can organize your own conference and unconference events 
together with the Apache Conference Committee, or present yourself during 
bigger Apache events like ApacheCon.
                * You'll have a chance to hang out with some pretty serious 
geeks (not sure if that's a benefit ;)).
                
                But of course if you go this way, you'll have to become Apache 
and work on achieving consensus with a much larger group of people on issues 
that go beyond the code. And of course you may have different objectives than 
the ones that I cited (community building, code legal clearance and 
preservation).
                
                But give it a thought. Considering that WO core is not open 
source, this will be creating an interesting precedent, so I called it crazy 
above, but I think it is certainly doable.
                
                Cheers,
                Andrus
                


                On Sep 19, 2011, at 3:49 PM, Pascal Robert wrote:
                > Good morning everyone,
                >
                > As you may know, we want to register the association as a 
non-profit organization in Canada. Since this is the first time I'm doing this, 
I would like input from you for the by-laws. You can find a draft in the wiki:
                >
                >  
http://wiki.objectstyle.org/confluence/display/WOCOM/Organization+Incorporation
                >
                > If you have comments to make about them, please add them in 
the wiki, or post to the org-gr...@wocommunity.org mailing list (send an email 
to org-group...@wocommunity.org to subscribe).
                >
                > Thanks for your help!
                
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