HI Ken,

On Oct 21, 2010, at 3:36 AM, ISHIMOTO Ken wrote:

> Hi Chuck,
> 
> 
>> Do you have an estimate of the number of people and companies in Japan that 
>> are currently using WebObjects.  I have met several of the people over the 
>> years and had an idea that it was quite a few.
> 
> I know 4 Companies that are mostly 90% developing in WO.
> 
> Also there are about 50-60 Companies that use WO in-house. I am not allowed 
> to say any names or ...

Thanks, that is good and useful information.  I understand about the names.


> Many Companies are maintenance there app in-house, some Companies also use it 
> for new Development too.
> 
> Also our Job is to translate Documentation WO / Wonder to japanese and 
> teaching, but the big Problem is there is no way yet for multi language 
> Javadoc, 

One of many shortcomings in JavaDoc.


> and our Wonder version is really heavy Documented. That makes it also hard to 
> give back Frameworks to the Community.

That is unfortunate.


> It is no Problem if I make documentation in Japanese & English for me. But if 
> I can only use one Language than I have to go my own way and use the Language 
> that it is easier to use for me.
> 
> Also a new Project on that we are working will be a wonder based app.
> 
> I hope it helped a little.

It did.  Thank you!

Chuck



>> 
>> On Oct 20, 2010, at 6:29 AM, ISHIMOTO Ken wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Pascal,
>>> 
>>> I know lot of Peoples and Companies in Japan the didnt' answer the Survey.
>>> 
>>> Most Companies are in-house Developments and the are not allowed to speak.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 2010/10/20, at 14:33, Pascal Robert wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Ok, so according to the surveys, the main issues people have with 
>>>> WebObjects and Wonder are lack of current documentation and code sample. 
>>>> People do love the community, and a lot of you said that the community is 
>>>> the #1 reason why they keep using WO. But still, a lot also said that they 
>>>> are waiting from Apple about new stuff, but if you look back at the last 3 
>>>> years, all new stuff was added to Wonder, even small Apple contributions 
>>>> (ERModernLook, ERProfiling, etc.). Wonder IS the future, and we can say 
>>>> that we are now community-driven.
>>>> 
>>>> So to build an even better community, I created a Google Moderator site so 
>>>> that we can share our ideas and vote on it :
>>>> 
>>>>    http://www.google.com/moderator/#16/e=352e3
>>>> 
>>>> Let's put our ideas in there, and let's move the community farther up!
>>>> 
>>>> In case you didn't know, the 2010 surveys results are in the wiki :
>>>> 
>>>>    
>>>> http://wiki.objectstyle.org/confluence/display/WOCOM/WOCommunity+2010+Individual+Survey
>>>> 
>>>>    
>>>> http://wiki.objectstyle.org/confluence/display/WOCOM/WOCommunity+2010+Organization+Survey+results
>>>> 
>>>> Don't be afraid of the number of organizations that answered the 2010 
>>>> survey. I know at least 4 organizations who are still using WO that didn't 
>>>> answer the survey but did answer it last year. I can't force people to 
>>>> answer...
>>>> 
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