Yes, that is the basis of what I am suggesting. There is not currently such a thing; there is something called 'select_raw' implemented in the GoogleDataStore adapter, but not in anything else, and it isn't exactly what I am proposing.
To elaborate: Assume the table is defined as follows: reftable = db.define_table('reftable', Field('a', string)) table = db.define_table('table', Field('b', reftable)) In my case, I need to pull all the records (60,000) from the database to compute some aggregation which I cannot compute using sql. There are two alternatives here: r1 = db().select(table.ALL) # takes > 6 seconds r2 = db.executesql(db._select(table.ALL)) # takes ~0.1sec The records returned in the first instance are much richer; they have record chasing (e.g. I can do r1[0].b.a to select through the foreign key), they have methods like r1[0].update_record() and r1[0].delete_record(), and other nice stuff. However, for this use, I don't need the additional records, and I do need the speed, so I would rather use r2. However, r2 is not a direct replacement -- it doesn't have the column names. If I use r3 = db.executesql(db._select(table.ALL), as_dict=True) # still takes ~0.1sec I can do r3[0]['b'] but I cannot do r3[0].b; and it takes a lot more memory than r2. A suggestion: add another parameter, processor=... which, if available, will be called with the db.connection.cursor, returning a function, through which each routine will be passed; example def named_tuple_process(name, description): from collections import namedtuple fields = ' '.join([x[0] for x in description]) return namedtuple(name, fields) r4 = db.executesql(db._select(table.ALL), process=lambda x: named_tuple_process('tablerec', x)) r4[0].b # will now work; not a full replacement, but good enough for many uses. In fact, you can do that externally - r4 = db.executesql(db._select(table.ALL)) f = named_tuple_process('tablerec', db._adapter.cursor.description) r4 = [f(x) for x in r4] But this requires reaching into the internals of the db adapter. Finally, I propose to define x.raw_select(*args) to do: db.executesql(x._select(*args)) which would make this a relatively clean replacement.