Hey Anthony, This is exactly what I was looking for. It clears a lot up.
Cheers, Rhys (no one seems to be using nick names so I've dropped my Sententia nick) On 22 December 2011 15:20, Anthony <abasta...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Sententia, > > Welcome. A few thoughts below... > > > I was wondering if someone from this user group could give a practical >> and straight response about the future development of this framework >> and it's ability to be flexible? >> > > Could you be a little more specific? What do you want to know about future > development, and what do you mean by being "flexible"? Development of > web2py is very active (typically multiple commits per day, and a new > release about once a month). It has been developed for over four years, has > an active and passionate user community, and a large number of > contributors, so I'm sure it will be under active development for a long > time to come. It's also very open and fairly informal, so if you have ideas > and want to get involved, it's very easy to make contributions yourself. > > >> I've spoken on the IRCs >> and asked a few people and they have shot web2py down quite heavily. >> > > I don't know what was said in those particular chats or who was involved, > but I have seen that kind of talk in other places. In my experience, most > of it is FUD, and those spreading it typically have never actually used > web2py. In many cases, they themselves have some kind of stake in > alternative frameworks. When challenged to provide evidence or details, > they often disappear from the conversation. > > To be sure, web2py does do some things differently from other Python > frameworks. In particular, it is willing to forego some (mostly unhelpful) > "explicitness" in favor of making development quicker and easier. Without > ever trying web2py, some "Pythonistas" imagine that this causes all kinds > of trouble, but they ignore the evidence of thousands of happy users who > are not in fact experiencing these hypothetical problems in actual real > world usage. > > Anyway, if you want to discuss any particular criticisms you have heard, > we'd be happy to weigh in. > > >> If I know the framework which I'm going to use is flexible with a >> bright future, I can add my extensions to work with it and know that >> it wont be a dead end. >> > > I don't think you'll have to worry about that with web2py. I think you'll > also find the web2py community to be a particularly welcoming and helpful > one. > > >> Also, why is there 14 people in #web2py but 149 people #pyramid? Why >> is a framework which is so known, so unfollowed? >> > > For whatever reason, web2py folks tend not to be big on IRC and instead > primarily come to this forum for discussion and support. Note, the web2py > Google group (which is growing steadily) has 30% more members than the > Pyramid group and posts nearly 10 times as many messages -- so I think > overall our community is probably even more active. Also, web2py was > recently rated best among six Python web > frameworks<http://www.infoworld.com/d/application-development/pillars-python-six-python-web-frameworks-compared-169442>by > InfoWorld, and received an InfoWorld Bossie > Award<http://www.infoworld.com/d/open-source-software/bossie-awards-2011-the-best-open-source-application-development-software-171759-0¤t=10&last=9#slideshowTop>for > best open source development software. > > Hope that helps. > > Best Regards, > Anthony >
