To correct myself, it seems the cron in web2py no longer uses the
filesystem timestamps, but cPickles timestamps from/to the lock file.
I'm not sure why Massimo changed it, but this *is* a bigger overhead
than it was previously (as it needs to do file locking and
cPickle.load() on every single request - as opposed to a simple cached
non-locking filesystem call).

On Apr 1, 8:20 pm, AchipA <attila.cs...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Exactly, hardcron checks once a minute, softcron checks on each page
> load. The 'check' is calling a function or two and comparing a file's
> timestamp, so not *that* much more expensive.
>
> On Apr 1, 7:51 pm, Jonathan Lundell <jlund...@pobox.com> wrote:
>
> > On Apr 1, 2010, at 10:37 AM, AchipA wrote:
>
> > > There is some overhead, but efficiency is a disputable term - there is
> > > certainly more overhead than hardcron, but IMO not in a way that would
> > > affect overall performance unless you're running it on a site that has
> > > hundreds of thousands of hits per day...
>
> > Perhaps we could change (or eliminate) the wording. How about simply 'Using 
> > softcron'?
>
> > I'm curious: what is the extra overhead of soft vs hardcron? Just that it 
> > does a test on each page access? I'm guessing that's pretty cheap.
>
> > > On Apr 1, 5:40 pm, Jonathan Lundell <jlund...@pobox.com> wrote:
> > >> Section 4.17 (cron) mentions hard vs softcrondefaults, but doesn't say 
> > >> how to override them.
>
> > >> Section 4.1 (cli) doesn't list --softcron
>
> > >> The startup message for softcronsays: 'Using softcron (but this is not 
> > >> very efficient)'
>
> > >> In what sense "not efficient"? I understand that the timing is less 
> > >> consistent, but is there really more overhead? softcron seems like a 
> > >> pretty reasonable choice if all you're doing it deleting expired 
> > >> sessions.
>
>


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