That is not a good point. That is a interface and usability question,
also it is a clientell question of who will be using the app.

I am tired of arguing this matter. As far as I see it, we broke
backwards compatibility, forcing me to update all of my apps.

I respectfully ask the community to please take the following
anonymous survey on this topic. I will support the outcome of the
results for this survey as the community decision.

I will not take part of this survey since I created it.

https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dE5pd01zNndEMk4zREpFRXFxU05vbEE6MA

-Thadeus





On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 7:55 PM, mdipierro <mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu> wrote:
> Not everybody agreed. Somebody (do not remember who) made a good point
> that having zero=None will case people to fill forms with with wrong
> values (always the first alphabetical value).
>
> On Mar 21, 7:21 pm, Thadeus Burgess <thade...@thadeusb.com> wrote:
>> Massimo, I think in the post everyone agreed to make zero=None the
>> default, and yet after at least 13 of us said to make this the
>> default, nothing happened. The original design was (is) a good idea,
>> but making that a default was a bad idea. Nobody had any input at the
>> moment, but after playing around with it, it sucks being the default.
>>
>> -Thadeus
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 1:00 PM, mdipierro <mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu> wrote:
>> > There was a long discussion about this. Different people disagreed on
>> > how this should behave.
>>
>> > You can revert to the previous behavior with
>>
>> > IS_IN_SET(...,zero=None)
>> > IS_IN_DB(...,zero=None)
>>
>> > Or customize the empty value
>>
>> > zero="Please choose one"
>>
>> > Massimo
>>
>> > On Mar 21, 12:42 pm, annet <annet.verm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> Today, I upgraded my web2py installation to version 1.76.5. In this
>> >> web2py version the drop boxes display an empty key value pair first,
>> >> and then the key value pairs from the tables I based them on. What
>> >> causes this change in behaviour? How do I correct it?
>>
>> >> Kind regards,
>>
>> >> Annet.
>>
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