Hello,

i'm designer and before of that a human being, so i wonder: why make
web2py less human readable?

what's "ez-negmr" "ez-50"??!!!!

the semantic of the most css framework is a problem, because they
haven't.

...On the other hand:
To have fewer elements is simpler to understand when you start to
learn and use something new.
To have a simple layout, without images, without a heavy css ... etc.
I think it's better, perhaps more ugly, but faster to learn.
Less elements = less uncertainty. This encourages the learning
process.

well, it's just what I think.

Greetings!

Pepe.

On Mar 20, 1:25 pm, mdipierro <mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu> wrote:
> Yarko did it! The new welcome with ez.css is in trunk. We still need
> do add something to allow skinning and rearrange the css (right now we
> have:
>
> applications/welcome/static/base.css
> applications/welcome/static/calendar.css
> applications/welcome/static/ez-plug-min.css
> applications/welcome/static/ez-plug.css
>
> massimo
>
> On Mar 19, 6:05 pm, Yarko Tymciurak <resultsinsoftw...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Mar 19, 2:24 am, mdipierro <mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu> wrote:
>
> > > I played with ez-css (which I like) but yet it reminded why I used
> > > tables.
>
> > Yeah - the presence of tables in the layout really causes troubles!
>
> > > Here is my problem and I am sure it is just me being dumb. Say
> > > I want a header, a footer and two columns in between. I want the left
> > > column of fixed with (a menu, 200px) and a right column to foll the
> > > rest of the space (content). Because of the way it works (and most of
> > > these frameworks work the same way), the columns float to right
> > > therefore I must specifycontent before the menu. Hence I cannot find a
> > > way to make the menu fixed width and the content fill the rest of the
> > > space without messing up the alignment of the boxes. Can you do it?
>
> > If I understand you, I think this is pretty easy w/ ez-css.   I have
> > now done a few layouts w/ it in web2py (as of last night), and have
> > sent you an ez-css layout.html for "welcome" app (it uses the css
> > classes from base.css, but a few settings that were assigned to table
> > elements, I had to update / put elsewhere - base.css has minor
> > changes;  ez-plug.css remains stock).
>
> > There are probably other things that could be cleaned up in base.css,
> > but this was pretty easy (once I realized how to go about it).
>
> > - Yarko
>
> > > Massimo
>
> > > On Mar 18, 11:46 pm, Yarko Tymciurak <resultsinsoftw...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
>
> > > > On Mar 18, 10:31 pm, mdipierro <mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu> wrote:
>
> > > > > The problem I see is that it is too simple.
> > > > > sizeXofY does not seem to guarantee that all columns have the same
> > > > > lenght (ez-css does it).
> > > > > I like to have the menu column fixed width and the main column elastic
> > > > > and it does not do that (not sure if ez-css does).
>
> > > > I have installed ez-css to try out / play with...  it does do fixed
> > > > width + variable width columns:
>
> > > > In multiple ways, actually (depending on how you nest it);   
> > > > seehttp://www.ez-css.org/layouts
>
> > > > See module 2A, 2B, layout 2, layout 3, etc....
>
> > > > Each of these use "ez-50", a 50% width element, or "ez-33", a 33%
> > > > width element.
>
> > > > ez-css encourages you to create your own width element if the pre-
> > > > defined ones don't "do it" for you - so, create a
> > > > ez-500px, and you'd have what you want.
>
> > > > This seems like a really clean, easily modifiable and "combinable"
> > > > package...  I'm going to play with it in the next few days to see how
> > > > my opinion holds up in use.
>
> > > > - Yarko
>
> > > > > On Mar 18, 8:59 pm, villas <villa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > Ez-css seems like a good enough option,  but before making your mind
> > > > > > up, have a look at the simplicity of oocss.org/grids_docs.html (with
> > > > > > Firebug).  Oocss might give more possibilities,  but admittedly, is
> > > > > > heavier.

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