This has gone way off topic and personal, however I suppose I should try and do something to repair the ill feeling.
I acknowledge Thadeus is a valuable and talented contributor. I don't have the time or inclination to address anything that does not specifically address relevant topics and doing so would certainly not benefit the community. On forums I get called a fool, stupid, deficient and mad for sticking to well argued points that upsets a culturally dominant view that is held with religious fervour. If I stick to a point it is for a reason, not out of obstinacy. For low memory and low cpu use, no hard evidence has been presented Apache can match Lighttpd and no serious attempt has been made to present such hard evidence. As I said before, can we PLEASE move on. John Heenan On Feb 21, 3:12 pm, Thadeus Burgess <thade...@thadeusb.com> wrote: > You need to change your tone of voice John. > > If anyone has been have crying foul, and won't accept test results. It is you. > > I have shown you a valid apache configuration that is comparable to > lighttpd, for the sake of this thread it is important to show that > apache can too have a low memory footprint. > > I also shared yet more ways to get an even lower footprint with apache. > > For this I am representing a hostile environment? I think not. > > I am providing yet another point of view. One that you do not agree > with, and this is fine, however there is no reason for your comments > and your blatant ignorance and disregard for anything comparative to > your point of view. > > Don't make yourself look like a fool with outlandish, unprecedented comments. > > As a member of the web2py community I do not respect your out-lashing > apache. You have stepped out of line. > > The world has changed rapidly in the past 10 years. The emergence of > ROR, jQuery, .NET, virtualization, j2se 5, git, mercurial, > groovy, iphone and embedded applications, social and viral networking. > All of this has attributed to changing the way we think about web, and > with this we > need a server that can easily support the new rapidly changing > environments. Apache is not history, the simple fact is that the > majority of the Internet is still running apache, and until the time > that apache is below 10% of market share, it won't be history. > > I am a fan of cherokee, lighttpd, and others. I use apache because I > am putting my company in a position to easily find someone who can > manage the system I have put in place if anything happened to me. > Apache is much better known in the business world. Things will change, > as time goes on. This is also the reason I will not change a live > production system for some tweaks that would lower my memory by a > negligible amount when I have access to almost unlimited resources. > > I applaud your work and lightweight lighttpd configuration, and if I > were to ever use lighttpd I would follow your instructions on the > matter. (In fact, I am adding a link to your lighttpd slice on my > apache/mod_wsgi slice). > > It is the ability to run web2py in almost any environment that makes > web2py much more appealing to business, and you have contributed to this > effort. > > You have done a great service to the community with your examples on > lighttpd. I thank you for this. > > -Thadeus > > On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 6:58 PM, John Heenan <johnmhee...@gmail.com> wrote: > > n't we PLEASE just move on. Apache is history for both very busy > > sites and for very small resource sites. Apache did a great job and > > had glorious moments despite a fundamental design flaw unsuited to the > > way the web has evolved and having become bloated due to its chaotic > > style of development. Please let Apache die a peaceful death without > > attacking or casting a slur on those who have the nerve not to pay > > homage to Apache by using something else. It is simply not appropriate > > and sets up an unwelcome hostile environment for those of us who > > simply want to get on with using the best tools for the job and have > > this recognised, not slurred. > > > mod_rewrite is not a burden. > > > It allows lighttpd to serve static file for web2py instead of web2py > > serving them. This is a recognised benefit of using an external web > > server for web2 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "web2py-users" group. To post to this group, send email to web...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to web2py+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/web2py?hl=en.
