There is also the fact that plugins are just a subset of an app with a
naming convention. I do not consider them plugins personally. I think
trac has the idea of plugins down, as well as other python
applications.
The issue comes down to, we all want a kick ass plugin system, but
nobody wants to (or has the time to) sit down and write the system.
Massimo does not want a plugin system that requires editing web2py
code (because a real plugin system will slow down the dispatching of
web2py, which is null anyways since massimo always admits its the
database not web2py that is slow). Like you I also do not feel the
need to develop something when there is no community push for it
(hence the reason I have put plugincentral off for so long).
/rant off
-Thadeus
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 5:08 PM, Thadeus Burgess <thade...@thadeusb.com> wrote:
> We're going to have a problem though that there will be multiple
> versions of the same plugin that does the same thing. I also have a
> comments/tagging/star-rating for my blog, if they offer the exact same
> functionality (i already have a markdown embeded into my comment
> plugin) then we don't need two.
>
> -Thadeus
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 4:56 PM, selecta <gr...@delarue-berlin.de> wrote:
>> great idea, i wrote a couple of plug-ins by now which i guess some of
>> could find useful (user admin, generic star-rating, binarry rating,
>> comments (improved), tagging (improved), systems biology annotations)
>> but since i got like no feedback on posting my fist plug-in and seeing
>> no one else post plug-ins i am not quite willing to share them.
>> Instead i would trade them while waiting for this new plug-in app
>> store.
>>
>> Plug-ins that I need are
>>
>> - Decentralized Authentication
>> log-in/sign-up from facebook/twitter/... any open id service, i've
>> seen this as a slice
>> - Geo-tagging
>> anything that easily lets your geotag records
>> - Nice Usage Statistics
>> log file analyser that makes some nice plots
>> - Issue Tracker
>> bug/feature tracker with at least rating of item priority (1-10 with
>> color highlighting) and item status, even better would be a
>> integration with the error tracking in web2py
>> - Shorten Link
>> create damn short url from a random long url
>> - Twitter Plug-in
>> that remembers twitter messages and updates them automatically and
>> where you can configure how many messages you want to display (maybe I
>> just have to read the twitter api a little better for that one)
>>
>> Plug-ins that I have
>> -user admin
>> create groups, add/remove users from groups, confirm user
>> -star-rating,
>> make a star-rating widget (with an arbitrary number of stars and
>> splits like half and quarter stars) for any db record with {{=star-rate
>> ('movie',movie.id,20,2,)}}, only logged in users can rate, your can
>> put multiple star-rating widgets in one view, information is submitted
>> with ajax,
>> -binary rating
>> logged in user can bin-rate (thumbs up/thumbs down) or approve (tick/
>> red X) any db record
>> -comments (improved)
>> logged in user can write comments and bin-rate (see above) comments
>> from other users, currently i am adding a WYSIWYG markdown edit
>> interface (some troubles there)
>> -tagging (improved)
>> logged in users can tag, generates tag clouds for all tags, one table,
>> one record, a user, I also have some code to find items by tag so the
>> tag clouds can be links! (based on Massimos basic tagging plug-in)
>>
>> If you have any of the plug-ins that I want or something that I might
>> like (social network/web2.0 stuff/...) and you want to trade please
>> tell me. It is not that I do not want to publish the plug-ins at some
>> point but since nobody seemed to be interested so far I will wait till
>> I see that I get something back
>>
>>
>> On Jan 21, 8:13 pm, Thadeus Burgess <thade...@thadeusb.com> wrote:
>>> +1 and this could easily integrate into plugincentral (of which lately
>>> I have had no time since my real job is taking all of my time
>>> currently)
>>>
>>> -Thadeus
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 7:56 AM, mdipierro <mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu> wrote:
>>> > I completely agree with this but one more step is necessary.
>>>
>>> > Currently with "web2py plugin" we just mean an autonomous subset of an
>>> > app.
>>>
>>> > To do what you want we need a sophisticated kind of plugin. I think we
>>> > need a CMS and plugins that can talk to the CMS. We need a protocol.
>>>
>>> > Massimo
>>>
>>> > On Jan 21, 4:15 am, Jason Brower <encomp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> I am glad you guys agree. I actually don't even know where to get
>>> >> pluggins at this point. For example, I could jsut add all the pluggins
>>> >> I need at ones for an app I am buildings in one quick snap.
>>> >> --Plugins---
>>> >> |X| Creditcard transations
>>> >> | | Blog Tool
>>> >> |X| Admin Tool
>>> >> |X| Bandwidth Throttler
>>> >> | | Pork and Beans
>>> >> | | Avatar Builder
>>> >> | | User Admin
>>> >> -------------
>>> >> |submit|
>>> >> -------------
>>> >> Something like that.
>>>
>>> >> On Wed, 2010-01-20 at 22:53 -0800, waTR wrote:
>>> >> > +1
>>>
>>> >> > On Jan 19, 5:08 am, mdipierro <mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu> wrote:
>>> >> > > +1
>>>
>>> >> > > On Jan 18, 11:00 pm, Anand Vaidya <anandvaidya...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> >> > > > +1
>>>
>>> >> > > > Excellent feature to possess.
>>>
>>> >> > > > -Anand
>>>
>>> >> > > > On Jan 19, 12:16 pm, Jason Brower <encomp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> >> > > > > I think it would be nifty to have an interface (app store?) to
>>> >> > > > > install
>>> >> > > > > and remove pluggins from your web2py installation. I suppose
>>> >> > > > > that
>>> >> > > > > feature should be at the application level and not the web2py
>>> >> > > > > level.
>>> >> > > > > Any thoughts on it? It could parse a feed and then from it's
>>> >> > > > > name could
>>> >> > > > > tell if it's been installed in that app or not. It could also
>>> >> > > > > handle
>>> >> > > > > the updates too. :D
>>> >> > > > > Just my thoughts,
>>> >> > > > > Jason
>>>
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