On Dec 7, 9:03 pm, Thadeus Burgess <thade...@thadeusb.com> wrote: > yes, I was actually under the impression that is what admin did. > > -Thadeus > > > > On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 8:28 PM, mr.freeze <nat...@freezable.com> wrote: > > Why not just pull the files directly from the version controlled > > welcome app files? Isn't admin trying to unpack and get those files > > anyway?
This is a bit counter to how you want to store in a version control system: "derived" files should be made, not stored. One of the reasons that cloning the revision was so long was that these huge, binary files were versioned. This is one of the reasons that a distribution had a compressed tar file (not called *.w2p files) - so that they would be smaller. The only problem, for checkout, e.g. "clone", "pull", "update", "merge" operations this results in an unusually long activity (especially for clone, where the changesets - which in the case of binary files will just be the entire, long list of *.w2p versions). For web2py to behave by trying to find *w2p file reflects the concept that "smaller" distribution files are what is distributed. Recent discussions that people might modify their welcome apps is reason to consider if the change in web2py should be to 'make', or build a distribution-like installation (that is, if there is no *.w2p file, then make them). This makes senes for welcome app, perhaps lest for admin, and is really most questionably as to utility for examples. One thing that is clear: it is not desirable (for several reasons, in general) to version derived files. This discussion should probably center on: is it worthwhile to distribute / build *.w2p files in any of these cases anymore. Your thoughts? - Yarko > > > On Dec 7, 8:23 pm, Thadeus Burgess <thade...@thadeusb.com> wrote: > >> Probably should, I say a central copy of welcome.w2p should be placed > >> on web2py.com and urllib to download it if it doesn't exist, this way > >> it still does not need to be distributed with the SCM. > > >> -Thadeus > > >> On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 8:17 PM, mr.freeze <nat...@freezable.com> wrote: > >> > Should the admin app be modified then? It still looks for welcome.w2p > >> > then fails when creating a new app. > > >> > On Dec 7, 8:11 pm, Thadeus Burgess <thade...@thadeusb.com> wrote: > >> >> the .w2p files are no longer included, but version-ed directories of > >> >> the examples and welcome apps are. > > >> >> The consensus was that you would create a new app instead of using the > >> >> welcome app to make modifications. > > >> >> -Thadeus > > >> >> On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 7:55 PM, mr.freeze <nat...@freezable.com> wrote: > >> >> > I've switched from svn to mercurial (SubClipse to MercurialEclipse) > >> >> > and most everything seems to be working. One question though: Where > >> >> > is welcome.w2p now? Creating a new app fails because it is missing. I > >> >> > don't see an hgignore file anywhere so I don't think it is getting > >> >> > excluded. Has it been removed from source control? > > >> >> > Thanks for any help and sorry if this was already discussed, google > >> >> > groups search is abysmal. > > >> >> > -- > > >> >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >> >> > Groups "web2py-users" group. > >> >> > To post to this group, send email to web...@googlegroups.com. > >> >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> >> > web2py+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >> >> > For more options, visit this group > >> >> > athttp://groups.google.com/group/web2py?hl=en. > > >> > -- > > >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >> > Groups "web2py-users" group. > >> > To post to this group, send email to web...@googlegroups.com. > >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> > web2py+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >> > For more options, visit this group > >> > athttp://groups.google.com/group/web2py?hl=en. > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "web2py-users" group. > > To post to this group, send email to web...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > web2py+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/web2py?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "web2py-users" group. To post to this group, send email to web...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to web2py+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/web2py?hl=en.