On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 19:46, mdipierro <mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu> wrote:
>
> This is what web2py needs. How do you suggest I link it form the main
> web site? Peraps thete should a page where people can post links to
> articles.
>

sure! that is necessary!
and very suggest usage Sphnix nightly buidling it!
so we can make Chinese translate in time...

> Massimo
>
> On Jul 23, 2:17 am, Benigno <bca...@albendas.com> wrote:
>> John,
>>
>>      Very interesting article. I haven't had the need of capturing
>> data and structuring it from the web so far, but it is great to learn
>> how to do it, nicelly structured and enlightening.
>>
>> cheers,
>> Benigno.
>>
>> On 22 jul, 14:25, JohnMc <maruadventu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Benigno,
>>
>> > The file is located here --http://76.185.48.154/images/web2pyart1.pdf
>>
>> > Is a PDF 'the' solution. No. Its one maybe of a select few output
>> > formats we should use. As to delivery I have modified my thinking
>> > thanks to Alex.  I suggested that vision here --
>>
>> >http://groups.google.com/group/web2py/browse_thread/thread/9a59133439...
>>
>> > JohnMc
>>
>> > On Jul 22, 5:38 am,Benigno<bca...@albendas.com> wrote:
>>
>> > > I do not know if I am understanding this correctly, but if the
>> > > proposal right now is to make a PDF and a zip file, or even just a zip
>> > > file with all the contents and maybe some text indicating what will be
>> > > found inside, I do think its not good to search on, nor to review and
>> > > even less if its something that may be "alive" in the sense that it
>> > > may get updated.
>>
>> > > I still do think, that these articles should be html-ish. Be it wiki,
>> > > be it Sphinx, or even a Blog, with a clear date set on them, and
>> > > easily updatable (so as to be able to say when a document may be
>> > > outdated), easily searchable, and if possible with comments available.
>> > > If on top of that, we link downloadable files, well, so much the
>> > > better. But to learn to do something, I do not normally want to
>> > > download and install anything. Furthermore, if the whole code is to be
>> > > placed, I'd rather look at something GitHubish, or sourceforge or TRAC
>> > > or anything that would allow to link to it, and let people check the
>> > > code without actually needing to download the whole thing.
>>
>> > > Anyway, I may be completelly off track, and you are proposing a much
>> > > simpler scenario.
>>
>> > > JohnMC,
>> > >    I didnt see your file, where is it to read it?.
>>
>> > > Alex,
>> > >    I've still to finish the little paypal project I am doing. I posted
>> > > here in the groups a couple of things a week ago or so. However, you
>> > > can check an NVP example at the examples repository at web2py website,
>> > > if you are looking for a full integration of payments etc. If you are
>> > > looking for something more google-ish, then I posted the little code
>> > > it takes to send the information to Paypal and have it working. Now I
>> > > am working on the PDT (payment data transfer) and IPN if time allows.
>> > > I'll let you know and will write an article as soon as a this is all
>> > > sorted out.
>>
>> > > On Jul 22, 3:53 am, Alex Fanjul <alex.fan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > > > It's a great Idea John!! I bet for that!
>> > > > One self-contained zip file, with all ready to start, documentation,
>> > > > testing, etc.
>> > > > We would have to throw out all the innecesary examples, code, things in
>> > > > such a .*h*w2p (:D) files.
>>
>> > > > regards,
>> > > > Alex
>>
>> > > > El 21/07/2009 5:11, JohnMc escribió:
>>
>> > > > > Alex,
>>
>> > > > > Certainly can, and will.
>>
>> > > > > Fact it brings up yet another 'opportunity' for consideration.
>> > > > > Hopefully the How2Pys will include the sample code run ready. If that
>> > > > > is the case why not just put the documentation in /static? (or
>> > > > > someplace better?) That way it is totally contained in the .zip/.w2p
>> > > > > application.
>>
>> > > > > Thoughts?
>>
>> > > > > JohnMc
>>
>> > > > > On Jul 20, 5:51 pm, Alex Fanjul<alex.fan...@gmail.com>  wrote:
>>
>> > > > >> Wow!! impressive John...!
>> > > > >> Could you provide us with an example zip application ready to 
>> > > > >> install in
>> > > > >> web2py?
>>
>> > > > >> thanks in advance!!
>> > > > >> alex f
>>
>> > > > >> El 20/07/2009 23:12, JohnMc escribió:
>>
>> > > > >>> Ok, here is a draft of the article 
>> > > > >>> --http://76.185.48.154/images/web2pyart1.pdf.
>>
>> > > > >>> Have not applied a great deal off formatting. Looking for input as 
>> > > > >>> to
>> > > > >>> preferences in that regard.
>>
>> > > > >>> JohnMc
>>
>> > > > >>> On Jul 19, 10:13 pm, Yarko Tymciurak<yark...@gmail.com>    wrote:
>>
>> > > > >>>> On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 7:49 PM, Tim Michelsen
>> > > > >>>> <timmichel...@gmx-topmail.de>wrote:
>>
>> > > > >>>>>> A directed question if I may. What tools do you use to create 
>> > > > >>>>>> the rest
>> > > > >>>>>> doc that goes into Sphinx.
>>
>> > > > >>>>> I tried to show some here:
>>
>> > > > >>>>>http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~timmie/web2py/web2py-appdocu/annotate/he...<http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Etimmie/web2py/web2py-appdocu/annotate/...>
>>
>> > > > >>>> This was Timmies patch for web2py documenting - and his proposal 
>> > > > >>>> to follow
>> > > > >>>> numpy standards (a good starting point, I thought, and continue 
>> > > > >>>> to think,
>> > > > >>>> but too detailed for web2py sources). I got partway thru parsing 
>> > > > >>>> this down
>> > > > >>>> to what I thought would be useful essentials for web2py;  I need 
>> > > > >>>> to send
>> > > > >>>> this to Massimo.  In the end, too many people working at once, 
>> > > > >>>> and no
>> > > > >>>> coherent direction, so this confused the issue / task (too many / 
>> > > > >>>> no chiefs;
>> > > > >>>> incongruent effort), and I just dropped it until this aspect 
>> > > > >>>> cooled (anyway,
>> > > > >>>> other things in my life took priority at the time).
>>
>> > > > >>>> I haven't tried prettytable (write python code to generate ascii 
>> > > > >>>> table; but
>> > > > >>>> could be useful to dump existing data).
>>
>> > > > >>>> The shell scripts for making web2py specific sphinx docs I don't 
>> > > > >>>> think apply
>> > > > >>>> to your question of what tools do I use to create rest (that is, 
>> > > > >>>> the
>> > > > >>>> structured format of the content).
>>
>> > > > >>>> But bottom line is still - you can easily just use a normal text 
>> > > > >>>> editor....
>>
>> > > > >>>> To get a feel for this - to convince yourself that as a edit / 
>> > > > >>>> contributor
>> > > > >>>> this is "sane", just look at one of the "show source" links on 
>> > > > >>>> any of the
>> > > > >>>> sphinx docs
>> > > > >>>> e.g.http://sphinx.pocoo.org/_sources/intro.txtofhttp://sphinx.pocoo.org/i...
>> > > > >>>> other sphinx docs listed 
>> > > > >>>> here:http://sphinx.pocoo.org/examples.html
>>
>> > > > >>>> - Yarko
>>
>> > > > >>>>> you can use a simple editor that involves good syntax 
>> > > > >>>>> highlighting. Like
>> > > > >>>>> HTML...
>>
>> > > > >>>>> Or see the post on Lyx.
>>
>> > > > >> --
>> > > > >> Alejandro Fanjul Fdez.
>> > > > >> alex.fan...@gmail.comwww.mhproject.org
>>
>> > > > --
>> > > > Alejandro Fanjul Fdez.
>> > > > alex.fan...@gmail.comwww.mhproject.org




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