On Oct 29, 2009, at 10:36 AM, mdipierro wrote:

>
> I hate these kind of changes because they affect syntax highlighing
> and a lot of example pages. Do you feel strongly about this?

Not so strongly. Only that a difference in name suggests a difference  
in meaning, and when that's not true, it's confusing.

I'll generate a patch that'll let you decide what to keep.

>
> On Oct 29, 12:25 pm, Jonathan Lundell <jlund...@pobox.com> wrote:
>> On Oct 29, 2009, at 10:14 AM, Jonathan Lundell wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Oct 29, 2009, at 9:57 AM, mdipierro wrote:
>>
>>>> send me a patch
>>
>>> OK.
>>
>>> Do you want to strip spaces? White space generally? If so, should
>>> IS_NULL_OR do the same?
>>
>> I see that stripping is there already.
>>
>> Another question: why isn't IS_NULL_OR called IS_EMPTY_OR? Is there a
>> distinction intended between null and empty (in this context)?
>>
>> If they're the same, how about changing IS_NULL_OR to IS_EMPTY_OR,  
>> for
>> consistency, and preserving IS_NULL_OR as a deprecated alias for
>> IS_EMPTY_OR?
>>
>>
>>
>>>> On Oct 29, 11:31 am, Jonathan Lundell <jlund...@pobox.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Oct 29, 2009, at 9:23 AM, mdipierro wrote:
>>
>>>>>> You can already do that by piping cleanup which would remove
>>>>>> unmached
>>>>>> charatacters or using IS_MATCH() validator.
>>
>>>>> CLEANUP obviates the need for any change at all (and it doesn't
>>>>> really
>>>>> do what I'm suggesting). MATCH might. But the point of the change
>>>>> you're suggesting is the same as the one I'm suggesting: IS_EMPTY
>>>>> should match non-empty strings that "count as empty". It's  
>>>>> syntactic
>>>>> sugar merely, but sweet nonetheless.
>>
>>>>>> On Oct 29, 11:18 am, Jonathan Lundell <jlund...@pobox.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Oct 29, 2009, at 9:01 AM, mdipierro wrote:
>>
>>>>>>>> I do not disagree. Shall we make is_not_empty strip?
>>
>>>>>>> If it's going to change, how about (also) an optional argument,
>>>>>>> defaulting to None, that's a string that counts as empty? I'm
>>>>>>> thinking
>>>>>>> of the case in which you put instructions to the user in a  
>>>>>>> field,
>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>> "first name" in the first_name field. In that case, it'd be
>>>>>>> convenient
>>>>>>> of "first name" counted as EMPTY.
>>
>>>>>>>> On Oct 29, 10:43 am, Thadeus Burgess <thade...@thadeusb.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Ok, I guess I just figured that IS_NOT_EMPTY would check for  
>>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> string
>>>>>>>>> was blank as well.
>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks for clarifying
>>
>>>>>>>>> -Thadeus
>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 10:40 AM, mdipierro
>>>>>>>>> <mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> tually is CLEANUP()  or CLENAUP(regex='.') that does that.
>>>>>>>>>> I do not think we agreed to anything el
>>
>>
> >



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