I think I see Bottiger problem. He feels he cannot be in the web2py- developers list until he is a contributor and therefore, until then, he will not be able to contribute to some of the discussion.
I want to clarify that this is not the case for the following reasons: anybody on the other list will be required to be also here and you can read those discussion so you can follow-up on the here if you consider this appropriate. Let's see how this works out. If this does not work well we can change the model and open web2py-developers to everybody interested in it (as with web2py-users) and find a better/different way to acknowledge contributors that membership in a mailing list. Nothing is set in stone. Different people want different things and this is my first real open source project. We are all going to do mistakes and we will work to correct them. Always assume that we are doing hat we do to be more inclusive and not less inclusive. Massimo On Jul 18, 4:03 pm, Yarko Tymciurak <yark...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 3:21 PM, Bottiger <bottig...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I can't shake the feeling that I spurred this move. > > It was in the ecology already, naturally... > > > ...... > > I have had made code contributions to other open- > > source projects, and I planned to for Web2Py but now it is looking > > more difficult. > > I don't understand - what did you see that makes you think it will be more > difficult to make contributions to web2py? > > Is this because of Joe's opinions? (he used some "namecalling" in his post > which I have issues with; no productive options or observations, and > certainly not any show of openness) > > > > > On Jul 18, 10:34 am, Joe Barnhart <joe.barnh...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I am surprised at this division of groups. Web2py does not have so > > > much traffic that it is a burden to have all messages in one group. > > > The intent is *precisely* to exclude people from certain > > > conversations. There really can be no other reason for setting up a > > > "developers" group with gated write access. The answer to "certain > > > comments taken out of context" is more and better communication, not > > > restricted lists of high priests vs. commoners. > > > > This strikes me as very heavy-handed and autocratic. This is not a > > > good sign for our project. You have set the barrier for participation > > > in web2py very high by this move. Honestly I am very surprised that > > > anybody (esp. Massimo) thinks this is a good idea. > > > > Warm regards, > > > > Joe Barnhart > > > > On Jul 17, 5:39 pm, mdipierro <mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu> wrote: > > > > > One more thing... this is not at all intended to exclude people from > > > > important conversations. > > > > > If you feel one way or another you can still bring it up here. > > > > > It is just that sometime some comments may be taken out of context > > > > from new users and be interpreted in the wrong way. > > > > > Let's see how it works out. If you have any suggestion to improve let > > > > me know. > > > > > Massimo --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "web2py-users" group. To post to this group, send email to web2py@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to web2py+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/web2py?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
