....but I think I generally agree w/ you that - other than basic
correcation, there is probably not a compelling reason to replicate the
whole kit-and-kaboodle....

On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 5:36 PM, Yarko Tymciurak <yark...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Simple point about calendar:  not sure you can (or would want to) use
> google calendar as part of a estore - that is, to sell time (coaching,
> seminars, haircuts, whatever...)
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 5:18 PM, weheh <richard_gor...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> I'm late to this party because I've been on the road and
>> incommunicado, but here are my 2 cents:
>>
>> - CMS: this is a critical app and one of the reasons I ended up
>> finding web2py to begin with, even though web2py is neither a CMS nor
>> is there a production-worthy CMS (no slur against KPAX) associated
>> with web2py. CMS is an important functionality for just about any
>> website, so this is definitely a high-priority app to have open-
>> sourced for web2py.
>>
>> - estore: A production-worthy estore would be quite nice. Especially
>> if it would be easy to tie into one's own web2py db of products.
>> Thumbs up to this idea, too.
>>
>> - Wiki: I agree with Joe on this one. Why the heck hasn't the web2py
>> wiki gotten more attention? Why doesn't it a kick-ass web2py app? Why
>> aren't people building out the info in it? What does that say about
>> this community?
>>
>> - Calendar: I just finished a calendar-based scheduling app for a
>> client. It was fun and had its challenges. I'm debating adapting it to
>> one of my own websites. But I'm also looking deeper into Google
>> Calendar. Frankly, it looks like it would make more sense for an
>> example of web2py tapping into Google calendar. The philosophical
>> issue is that most people won't have multiple calendars going at once.
>> Google has achieved black hole mass and has already won the email and
>> calendar battle (even relative to Microsoft). How could web2py even
>> make a dent, here? Why would anyone put their calendar on someone
>> else's website when they already have it in Google Cal, MS Outlook,
>> their Palm Pilot, or their Blackberry? I vote NAY on developing a
>> calendar app.
>>
>> And now the best saved for last:
>>
>> - Medical records keeping: I've seen some postings about this on
>> web2py. This, to me, is the *killer app*. Since I first learned of
>> web2py I've been threatening my friends that I was going to do
>> something about medical record keeping. Web2py seems like the obvious
>> choice for implementation. Let me explain ...
>>
>> For most people, privacy, cost, and ubiquity are the key issues
>> surrounding medical records keeping.
>> - Privacy: web2py offers privacy because it can run on a USB memory
>> stick. In other words, you can keep your records on a memory stick and
>> completely off the internet or your PC. What could be more secure?
>> Google offers free medical records keeping. I tried it. Knock on wood,
>> I'm healthy, so there's not much data I need to enter into Google.
>> Nevertheless, there's no way in hell I'm going to give Google my
>> medical records. (I know, this sounds inconsistent when correlated
>> against my comments about the calendar app above. Still, medical
>> records are more sensitive than when I have to carpool my kid to
>> school, right? And Google already knows too much about me, so there!)
>> - Cost: how about free? Most medical records systems cost $100K+. Why?
>> Beats me. Who pays for it? We all do. Sure, there is the issue of
>> integration with equipment and legacy records. But those issues aren't
>> that difficult to overcome. Really, the issue of medical records
>> keeping is more political than technological, IMHO. (Call me naiive,
>> but there are 3 docs in my family and I've talked to them, most of my
>> best friends are docs and I've taoked to them, I've talked about this
>> issue with all my own personal docs, I've talked to people in
>> government who are responsible for medical records keeping, and to the
>> IT people in docs offices and at hospitals who are responsible for
>> medical records keeping. My conclusion is that it's a political issue
>> -- government, office politics, big insurance politics, and medical
>> community politics.) The way to kill this issue is to make it free.
>> Free as in $0.
>> - Ubiquity: Free is good. Free is different from cheap. Free spreads
>> fast. Free spreads everywhere. Something like >70% of doctors offices
>> in the US don't have electronic medical records (EMR) because it's too
>> expensive. The Obama admin is budgeting greater than $10B (that's
>> billions with a B) to make electronic records ubiquitous. For us
>> Americans out there using web2py, this hits us in the wallet. Frankly,
>> I'm appalled that anyone thinks it will cost $10B+ to do this. As
>> relieved as I am that Obama is president (vs. the previous jackass), I
>> think it's an absurd use of my taxpayer's dollars to subsidise the
>> medical and insurance industries with costly, yet easy to implement
>> software. So I see it as almost a patriotic duty to come up with a
>> strategy that subverts the bureaucracy's tendency to spend my hard-
>> earned money.
>>
>> Towards that end, web2py is an unbelievable opportunity for medical
>> record keeping because it gives us, the consumers of medical services,
>> the opportunity to own and control our own medical records. Web2py is
>> unique among potential implementations in its ability to run off of a
>> USB memory stick. As such, the issue of privacy is moot. The patient
>> can keep his/her own medical record off-line and under lock and key if
>> they so choose.
>>
>> Distribution of a web2py medical record app would be free. If the
>> customer was too poor to have a computer, there could be sites that
>> hosted the medical records and web2py medical app. But frankly, even
>> the sickest patient could fit all their medical records on a 100MB USB
>> memory stick, which is basically free.
>>
>> Patients could download the app (with web2py and SQLite included) onto
>> a local machine, get the doc to copy their record into it, and then
>> bring the USB stick to the doctor's office where they could enable
>> their doctor to see select portions of their record. Same goes for
>> insurance companies and pharmacies. If online, then access could also
>> be controlled using the auth and CRUD functionality.
>>
>> The potential for positive publicity for web2py for a medical records
>> app would be, frankly, priceless. And the savings to the government
>> and medical community would be in the $Billions. As for the insurance
>> and pharma companies, screw them (after all, they screw us all the
>> time). They would benefit from cost savings, too, but who cares?
>>
>> So there's my 2 cents. I'll get off my soap box now. Comments and
>> rants are welcome.
>> >>
>>
>

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