Great post Mirek! I can confirm that paid PyCharm does work better with web2py than the Community version. What I like about PyCharm is that in addition to a Python IDE, you also get a good editor for HTML, javascript, CSS and a nice database editor if you're using the paid version.
If not using the paid version or using some other IDE that isn't web2py-aware, see this section of the book: http://web2py.com/books/default/chapter/29/14/other-recipes#Using-general-purpose-IDEs-with-web2py -Jim On Thursday, January 25, 2018 at 5:08:47 PM UTC-6, Mirek Zvolský wrote: > > If you use a simple editor only, it is similar as the work with web2py > integrated environment. You can just create and edit python files. > Of course the suitable editor must be special for Python writting: It must > at least convert the Tab into 4 spaces. And work with utf-8. > > If you want more, then use some Python IDE. > What means more? Intellisense, Find strings through all projects folders > and files, Find usages of defined fuction or class (in all files), Go to > function or class definitions through click on their call/usage, ... > You have about 30 different Python IDE's to choose your best. I have no > good knowledge about all of them. I just have worked short time with > Eclipse and now about 3 years with PyCharm. > From my opinion when I compare Eclipse and PyCharm, then PyCharm is much > much better. I speak about stability and speed. I cannot compare > properties, because I still use just basics from PyCharm. Example: I still > debug with the command line "from pdb import set_trace; set_trace()" > instead to use the Python integrated debugger. > However I believe PyCharm solution is excellent in such areas too. At > least I hear some experienced developers to say so. > > PyCharm has the free ("community") edition. And has a payed edition. I use > the free edition. > Web2py is special Python software - model+controller+view run in same > scope, which was earlier prepared by Web2py internals. It makes things a > little easier for you because you have some useful things already imported > (request, response, session, html helpers, names from model). This is crazy > for the Python purists because they say: this is completly bad; this is not > Python, when you have inside the file some names from outside which are not > imported. I think, for the developer itself it is not so much bad. Because > we have here the limited number of well known and often used names and the > developer know from where these names come. > > However it is serious problem for the IDE. If you have nice pure Python > code, where the names are from the current file or they are imported, then > for the IDE is easy to find name references in other files. > Here I am not sure if following is true (could somebody confirm it?), but > I think: Payed PyCharm version has improved support for Web2py to help find > the references, but free version hasn't such support. That means you cannot > work with Web2py excellent in the free version. Instead you still work very > poor, not much better as in the basics editors. Yes, a little better. > Clicking or rightclicking the name can find the reference in same file. But > to search the whole project, you cannot do this. You are however able to > search the name as string through all files of the project. Which is fast > too, but not so fast as Ctrl+click or RightClick+FindUsages. > > I think you will make no mistake when you learn to work with PyCharm. > Regardless the possibilities can be (for Web2py) limited with regard to the > previous. > > I don't know about Windows IDE's (Visual Studio) and probably they can be > good for you if you work with other programming languages in same IDE too > (if you already know such IDE). > However PyCharm belongs to the family of JetBrains company IDE's. So you > can use same environment in other programming languages too. However not > everything from JetBrains is for free. > > And of course there is other way: A hard way for the beginning but during > 6 months I think you will be happy. Install double boot Windows+Linux (even > better, if you know Linux has not some fatal problem with your hardware, > then remove Windows and install Linux only). Then use > Python+VirtualEnv+PyCharm. > VirtualEnv is not absolutely neccessary. However you should understand, > that more and more parts of Linux system are written in Python. > Example: You will use Debian on your notebook (which I can recommend (but > of course there is a lot of good possibilities): Debian Stable for highest > stability or Debian Testing for newer software versions (which is probably > good for the developers machine). In Debian (and I think all other Linux > distributions) Python2 and Python3 are already installed (because part of > system and lot of software use them) and packaging system has lot of > python2-xxx or python3-xxx packages which are installed together with some > additional (later installed) software. > And this is the problem: Distributions contains some versions of python > and of python-packages. However with system updates the versions can be > upgraded ! > So you have possibility: You can develop your software with system > versions of Python and its components, and fix the behaviour when the > system versions will change. This is possible but not the best solution. > Better is install and activate virtualenv for the project folder. Then you > will work with fixed versions and you will upgrade versions when YOU will > want. > > With Python3.4+ you have no need to install virtualenv. Just call: python3 > -m venv venvdirectory/ > Then you can switch the paths with: . venvdirectory/bin/activate > and you have the proper python+pip version and you can install what you > want with: pip install .... > > > > > > > Dne středa 24. ledna 2018 22:28:05 UTC+1 Andrea Fae' napsal(a): >> >> Web2py integrated ide environment is not bad, but with limited debugging, >> no intellisense and so on. >> I'd like to know what is a completely free IDE for using with web2py. >> Visual Studio Community? Visual Code Editor? In which way? How can I >> integrate web2py with these IDE? Is it possible? >> Can you suggest the best free IDE for web2py, with HTML, CSS, Javascript >> and, obviously Python 2? >> Thank you >> > -- Resources: - http://web2py.com - http://web2py.com/book (Documentation) - http://github.com/web2py/web2py (Source code) - https://code.google.com/p/web2py/issues/list (Report Issues) --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "web2py-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to web2py+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
