Yes Villas you get good points...

I think Massimo's had talked about abandonning SQLFROM.grid. I never been
able to fully levrage it. Most of the time, I prefer handle forms myself,
as they most of the time more complexe the what .grid() can handle. So
there is no gain to having them to me... Tough I think we should look at
SQLFORM.grid as a prototyping tools as CRUD was more then an end solution
for crafting our apps. You build a prototype app fast then you rewrite it
and use proper customized tools for the real final product... But it far
from ideal... But I am not sure any frameworks can meet expectations of the
broad wild audience... Some will argue that they don't want you to specify
the grid they are going to use, other want it built in... For me, I would
defenitly avoid using DTs as I found those kind of fancy grid too heavy (to
many plugins, to many js, flash stuff, etc.)... I would prefer bare
html/css closer solution, like build html table populate it and drop css
from boostrap or other CSS lib. In this regard SQLFORM.grid is almost
perfect, but I think it should be rewrite entirely with proper requirements
and to me it should be strip to it main purpose GRID... Like this you don't
have to manage complexe redirection with args and vars, etc. It should
accept complexe query, so you are not limited to use it over as single
table, CRUD select was good in this respect.

In the future w3p

I guess in the future web3py will not offer anything like SQLFORM.grid,
just me thinking, base on what Massimo's has mention so far about web3py...

I think grid stuff will have to be handle more like this :

https://vuejs.org/v2/examples/grid-component.html

https://www.ag-grid.com/angular-getting-started/#gsc.tab=0



On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 11:16 AM, villas <villa...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Richard / everyone
>
> Those are good strategies.  However,  I also feel that it is a pity that
> we are having to 'roll our own' solutions because the sqlform.grid just
> seems too slow.
>
> Your idea of avoiding pyDAL seems to greatly reduce queries,  and so I am
> also tempted down this road.  However,  again,  this undermines the whole
> point of the framework.
>
> We need a more performant grid as part of the framework and my
> observations are these:
> 1. We need two options for loading data:  all at once,  and server-side
> via ajax.
> 2. We need to fill the grid with complex queries,  including proper 'left
> join on' syntax,  and in-line selects.  We can then suppress all those
> magical data 'represents' queries which are all done with additional
> row-by-row sub-selects.  On one page of my sqlform.grid views it generated
> almost a hundred queries.  I was able to replace that with a single complex
> query.
> 3. Ideally,  we should avoid reloading the whole page when we want to edit
> the data.  For example,  using modal forms.
>
> Maybe I'm asking far too much.  However,  almost every app I write uses a
> data grid and associated create/edit forms.  In simple situations I am very
> grateful for the sqlform.grid.  In many other cases though,  I find myself
> writing similar code over and over to produce a more performant listing.
> With my ideal framework,  I cannot help but feel that I should have a
> better starting point.
>
> I know that I should try and bring solutions to this group rather than
> frustrations.  My suggestion is therefore: let's leverage something like
> Datatables!
> If you got this far,  thanks for listening!
>
> Best regards.
>
>
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