On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 8:56 AM, Yarko Tymciurak<yark...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
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> On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 1:55 AM, Yarko Tymciurak <yark...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 1:45 AM, Hans Donner <hans.don...@pobox.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> yarko, are you carrying an ID? So if I want to know who you are you
>>> show me your ID aren't you?
>>
>> I present those to log in;  I don't use those to say "I decide I am
>> authorized!"

Exactly, but you ask the user to present the token - on which you base
your decission.
in the @user.is_loggedin case, the user object can get that token from
the authority (and is thus acting as a proxy for auth).

In my opinion, using @auth or @user is not perse that one wins over
another - it depends on the philosphy and implementation behind it.


> Actually, if I'm KGB or CIA, and carry a weapon, I suppose I would say "I
> decide I am authorized...", I just don't think that's the model appropriate
> for web authentication ;-)

That's what happens if you use a framework you don;t trust or behave
badly yourself...

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