We built a SHIB SSO and OAUTH SSO middleware in web2py that handles 1000+ 
concurrent users with very good results in IIS and ISAPI running a WSGI 
wrapper ala the cookbook instructions. I hear IIS and FastCGI and wonder if 
this is a better deployment option? Are you aware of any advantages of one 
over the other?

On Wednesday, November 2, 2016 at 5:55:36 PM UTC-4, Niphlod wrote:
>
> it's from some time ago but should work without issues. I think some 
> improvements have been made regarding wfastcgi availability as a proper 
> package, but in any case, I'm here to help (and maybe we can revisit the 
> segment on the book with your experience).
>
> <tl;dr>: should be "verbatim" but improvements on MS side could have 
> changed little bits. 
>
> On Wednesday, November 2, 2016 at 2:09:07 PM UTC+1, Omi Chiba wrote:
>>
>> OK! I failed last time but it worth try again. I will follow the book try 
>> it later.
>>
>> http://www.web2py.com/books/default/chapter/29/13/deployment-recipes?search=iis#IIS
>>
>> On Wednesday, November 2, 2016 at 3:43:37 AM UTC-5, Niphlod wrote:
>>>
>>> *nix --> nginx with uwsgi
>>> windows --> iis with fastcgi
>>>
>>>
>>> BTW: iis is perfectly fine running production envs. And it's NOT 
>>> difficult.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, November 1, 2016 at 8:01:22 PM UTC+1, Omi Chiba wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Thank you! I will stick to Apache/wsgi for now. 
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, November 1, 2016 at 1:54:37 PM UTC-5, Jim S wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I think the thread you referenced was one discussing deployment on 
>>>>> Ubuntu where yes, nginx/uwsgi is preferred.  But, the Windows environment 
>>>>> is different (in my opinion) since the Windows nginx is still considered 
>>>>> 'beta'.   I wouldn't feel that comfortable using it.  (that said, I do 
>>>>> use 
>>>>> many other 'beta' projects)
>>>>>
>>>>> If Apache/mod_wsgi is really frowned upon, should it be noted in the 
>>>>> book?
>>>>>
>>>>> @omi - I migrated from Windows/Apache/mod_wsgi a while back to 
>>>>> Ubuntu/nginx/uwsgi.  I think that at that time I switched from using 
>>>>> pyodbc 
>>>>> to pypyodbc.  I too access MS SQL servers from my ubuntu box using ODBC 
>>>>> (along with IBM AS/400 databases).  It works very well for me.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Jim
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, November 1, 2016 at 1:33:53 PM UTC-5, Richard wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would say, we don't not don't support it, we just don't maintain a 
>>>>>> web2py setup script with Apache... I think the decision was to reduce 
>>>>>> the 
>>>>>> number of setup script to the bare minium to only the one web2py-devs 
>>>>>> are 
>>>>>> willing to maintain...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That been said, I am sure that if you or someone else take owner ship 
>>>>>> to update and maintain Apache setup script because it important for you 
>>>>>> we 
>>>>>> will bring it back in the scripts folder... But I wouldn't take that 
>>>>>> path 
>>>>>> before someone demonstrate commitment to the task as we don't want to 
>>>>>> get 
>>>>>> back stuff that will not be maintain in years in the repo... I guess you 
>>>>>> can set your own github repo to demonstrate your commitment and help the 
>>>>>> community though, and it could be reference somewhere appropriate in the 
>>>>>> book.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Richard
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 2:22 PM, Dave S <snide...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tuesday, November 1, 2016 at 7:51:26 AM UTC-7, Omi Chiba wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thank you. I thought the Massimo's comment below and he  also 
>>>>>>>> mentioned somewhere we don't want to support Apache anymore... that's 
>>>>>>>> why I 
>>>>>>>> was nervous. I was thinking to your direction (Moving to Ubuntu) but I 
>>>>>>>> use 
>>>>>>>> pyodbc to connect Microsoft SQL Server and DB2, also python-ldap.. so 
>>>>>>>> not 
>>>>>>>> sure if it works the same way.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "P.S. I stand by Niphlod. He did not say anything offending and his 
>>>>>>>> comment was insightful. We do not recommend apache+mod_wsgi because 
>>>>>>>> there 
>>>>>>>> are better ways (nginx+uwsgi)."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you have a working Apache configuration, that's an argument for 
>>>>>>> staying with it [caveats follow].  Part of the deprecating is because 
>>>>>>> Apache configuration is delicate, complicated, and [reportedly] the 
>>>>>>> documentation isn't always helpful.  If you're beyond that stage, 
>>>>>>> that's 
>>>>>>> one objection overcome.  The caveats: there is some concern that Apache 
>>>>>>> security updates may be frequent and patching may be delicate and 
>>>>>>> complicated [it's been around long enough that may have an "organic" 
>>>>>>> structure].
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think Niphlod has run both IIS and nginx on Windows, and nginx on 
>>>>>>> his linux systems, but I'd have to go back through his posts to be sure 
>>>>>>> of 
>>>>>>> that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> /dps
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, November 1, 2016 at 9:39:17 AM UTC-5, Jim S wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I haven't seen anything about Apache no longer supported.  Did I 
>>>>>>>>> miss something?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> To my knowledge, nginx is not considered 'production ready' on 
>>>>>>>>> Windows.  See the first paragraph here:  
>>>>>>>>> http://nginx.org/en/docs/windows.html
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I think Apache is the way to go.   
>>>>>>>>> http://web2py.com/books/default/chapter/29/13/deployment-recipes#Apache-and-mod_wsgi
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> For me though, I've moved all of my production servers to Ubuntu 
>>>>>>>>> with nginx / uwsgi.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -Jim
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Monday, October 31, 2016 at 5:31:06 PM UTC-5, Omi Chiba wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm running production site with Apache but it sounds like we 
>>>>>>>>>> don't support apache anymore...  which is one is better/easy option 
>>>>>>>>>> for me? 
>>>>>>>>>> I tried IIS long time ago but didn't success... maybe it was too 
>>>>>>>>>> complicated for me.
>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>> - http://github.com/web2py/web2py (Source code)
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